Not many people are willing to forgo their holidays whatever the threat to the planet. To my mind if a plane is flying somewhere anyway then It might as well be full.

There is also a financial consideration. It’s often cheaper to fly from Scotland to London than it is to catch a train. Time wise there’s not much difference what with increased check in times but it can be a lot cheaper to fly into London City airport.

So what do you consider mass migration to be ?

Two big decisions may happen today. What extension will the EU give and do we get a GE.

If the EU gives us a 3 month with the ability to Brexit early I am fine with that.

The Lib Dems and the SNP are proposing an alternate date by 3 days. As long as this isn't a trap Boris should accept it as it will mean that all major parties bar Labour want a GE and Corbyn will look pretty silly voting against it.

Boris is concerned that if he agrees to the Lib Dem / SNP suggestion they will sneak a change in the voting law reducing the age from 18 to 16 which will favour the left.

I hope they don't as now is not the time to play politics with constitutional change. In principal I am against the idea however if we are going to make a change like this then it should be after a public debate and proper parliamentary scrutiny (something the opposition want for the Withdrawal bill).

The issues as I see them are this:

- 16yo's have very little life skills and mainly get their views from family and teachers.
- Voting at 16 challenges other age related activities such as drinking and gambling e.g. you are old enough to vote but not drink.
- The left who are so keen on this change "because 16yo's are capable of making rational decisions" will also argue that a 16yo who commits a serious crime should be treated as a child not as an adult. Well you can't have it both ways which is it?
- 16yos don't tend to pay tax

Anyway this is not a change to be made lightly when the public are not demanding it there has been almost no debate on the matter. Maybe we should have a referendum?

Still all to play for.

One more point

I haven't thought about that. Only that what we have now ought not to be referred to in that way. What people often forget is that it isn't just the immigrants that need to be considered, it's those of us who migrate elsewhere and those who only come here for a while as well. It's the net impact that matters. EU freedom of movement means we can go and live and work in other EU countries too, and many people do.

Migration is now a world wide phenomenon. It's just a fact of life as the ability of people to travel easily has shrunk the world. We are far from alone in this and it's something I believe we won't be able to stem in any really effective way, even if it was thought desirable to do so. It's not popular with some folk in many places, with exactly the same kind of attitudes as can be found here found elsewhere too. I partly lived abroad myself for a while, but came back.

Take a look at this:-

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It’ll be even more convenient when Crossrail is fully operational- should that day ever come.