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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 10.40pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
It was certainly his take on modern history. In an essay he wrote in 1942 concerning his experiences in the Spanish Civil War, he says: "I remember saying once to Arthur Koestler, 'History stopped in 1936', at which he nodded in immediate understanding ... I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various 'party lines'." Which is miles away in meaning from the misquote you quoted. It actually supports what I am saying. That history means different things to different people. So do you admit you were wrong? Or now claim to know what he might have said?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 10.41pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
It isn't only to do with the director. There is also funding and convincing a production company. For sure, although some feel so passionately about their work they try to produce it themselves, sometimes in small venues.
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Teddy Eagle  18 Mar 23 11.02pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
For sure, although some feel so passionately about their work they try to produce it themselves, sometimes in small venues. They do but there's quite a difference between mainstream television/Hollywood and a performance at the Donmar Warehouse. And even then it's hardly likely to happen.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 11.04pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It's not great and it's not a theory. It only takes a look at trends and an understanding of the effect of birth and mortality rates to see that. I think you actually know this. What I know is that you are just another example of the gullible on the right being swept up by a conspiracy theory which justifies their xenophobia. They have existed for at least 90 years in Europe. It's certainly not great, but it is only a theory, and a deeply flawed and extremely dangerous one at that. Although the data here concentrates on the USA, the reasoning applies just as accurately to Europe.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 11.07pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
They do but there's quite a difference between mainstream television/Hollywood and a performance at the Donmar Warehouse. And even then it's hardly likely to happen. Such productions do get made though, so obviously there is a demand, or they wouldn't get the funding. You might not want to see them, but enough do to get them on.
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| Teddy Eagle 18 Mar 23 11.09pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Such productions do get made though, so obviously there is a demand, or they wouldn't get the funding. You might not want to see them, but enough do to get them on. Do they? White actors playing Black parts?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 11.39pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Do they? White actors playing Black parts? Why do you ask? There are no such things as "black" parts. There are just parts. The point is that no-one should either notice or care. I haven't and don't. Until we all start actually start behaving as though the concept of judging people by the content of their character and not by the colour of their skin means something, we are destined to see division where there is none. It's happened, almost, in football. Or at least better than in other areas of life. Why not elsewhere?
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| Teddy Eagle 18 Mar 23 11.52pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Why do you ask? There are no such things as "black" parts. There are just parts. The point is that no-one should either notice or care. I haven't and don't. Until we all start actually start behaving as though the concept of judging people by the content of their character and not by the colour of their skin means something, we are destined to see division where there is none. It's happened, almost, in football. Or at least better than in other areas of life. Why not elsewhere? Of course there are. James Bond is white. John Shaft is black.
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 georgenorman 19 Mar 23 7.17am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Which is miles away in meaning from the misquote you quoted. It actually supports what I am saying. That history means different things to different people. So do you admit you were wrong? Or now claim to know what he might have said? My Uncle Bert ran a bakery and Eric Blair came in and ordered a cake with “Down With Big Brother!” to be iced on it. Albert declined the order on the grounds that the message was discriminatory against elder bros, racist and sibling-phobic.
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 19 Mar 23 7.25am |
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Some people have different interpretations of Right and Wrong.
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| Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 19 Mar 23 7.28am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Why do you ask? There are no such things as "black" parts. There are just parts. The point is that no-one should either notice or care. I haven't and don't. Until we all start actually start behaving as though the concept of judging people by the content of their character and not by the colour of their skin means something, we are destined to see division where there is none. It's happened, almost, in football. Or at least better than in other areas of life. Why not elsewhere? I would suggest the organisations such as The National Black Police Association and MOBOs have served their purpose, run their course, and now are forming divisive barriers, rather than bringing them down
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| The Dolphin 19 Mar 23 8.50am |
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You can't change history - only the future.
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