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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 May 19 11.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
This happened in the 80s-90s and you've only just found out now from the fake news? There's a Netflix documentary that explains it all that's worth a watch. To think that these so called 'revelations' will take him down is laughable. This is the new topic to drive ratings now the Never Trump media can no longer talk about the Russia collusion hoax. Edited by Penge Eagle (08 May 2019 9.28pm) Are you for real? Do you only follow Fox? That Mueller decided that proving collusion was not possible doesn't mean that there wasn't contemptible support of illegal activity by Russia or that indictments in other Courts aren't pending. There was no "hoax"! There was sufficient activity happening in plain sight to justify a FBI investigation. That the AJ has decided that a sitting President cannot be indicted doesn't mean he has been found not guilty. It just means we must wait and see what happens after he leaves office. The chances of him being indicted on obstruction of justice matters must be very, very high, when he leaves. The chances of a successful impeachment prior to that though remain low, given the balance of the Senate. His previous tax dodging, loss making, activities just adds context to the overall picture. This has been well known about for a long time but laying it all out now forces him to respond defensively. It might well have not been illegal, and just a constructed shell built by his tax advisers, but do we really want a person who takes this kind of route in the WH? We need someone with morals. Trump has no morality. Trump is a despicable man. You don't need to be politically right or left to come to that conclusion. Someone like him should never be close to wielding the kind of power that a POTUS holds. He is just not very bright, despite all his self aggrandisement claims. Being biased against Trump is the wise and natural response of every decent person. Evil needs to be resisted and called out. Anyone who defends him needs, in my opinion, to take a very long hard look at themselves before criticising those who attack him.
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 May 19 11.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Are you for real? Do you only follow Fox? That Mueller decided that proving collusion was not possible doesn't mean that there wasn't contemptible support of illegal activity by Russia or that indictments in other Courts aren't pending. There was no "hoax"! There was sufficient activity happening in plain sight to justify a FBI investigation. That the AJ has decided that a sitting President cannot be indicted doesn't mean he has been found not guilty. It just means we must wait and see what happens after he leaves office. The chances of him being indicted on obstruction of justice matters must be very, very high, when he leaves. The chances of a successful impeachment prior to that though remain low, given the balance of the Senate. His previous tax dodging, loss making, activities just adds context to the overall picture. This has been well known about for a long time but laying it all out now forces him to respond defensively. It might well have not been illegal, and just a constructed shell built by his tax advisers, but do we really want a person who takes this kind of route in the WH? We need someone with morals. Trump has no morality. Trump is a despicable man. You don't need to be politically right or left to come to that conclusion. Someone like him should never be close to wielding the kind of power that a POTUS holds. He is just not very bright, despite all his self aggrandisement claims. Being biased against Trump is the wise and natural response of every decent person. Evil needs to be resisted and called out. Anyone who defends him needs, in my opinion, to take a very long hard look at themselves before criticising those who attack him. He's back !!
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 May 19 11.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Well I do live here, Stirlingsays, but I think you know full well that I am not a disciple of Trump. No s***? So do I live here and I'm fairly conservative with a small c. Certainly fiscally conservative with no issue with gun control, abortion etc, but you are certainly obsessed with the Trumpeter to the point where I can imagine there's steam coming out of your ears & dribble rolling down your chin.
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Maine Eagle USA 08 May 19 11.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Perhaps you have been there too long because I think it hurts your sensibilities for certain.....'American society'? Na, half the country are loving it. I remember the tea party and they truly hated Obama....you're just a mirror image of that. So essentially all that's happened is that now your lot get to feel like the Republican activists felt like. If Biden or Sanders or AN other take over from Trump....the same over the top reactions will simply swap around again. The concept that half the country are loving the Trump presidency is a tall order. Also I dont agree that this is just history repeating itself and when things swing back blue it will be exactly the same. Trump has utterly and completely changed the face of politics in Washington and has unilaterally dispensed with virtually every norm which every president in the past has adhered to. Take the press briefing as an example. The event has basically become pointless as Sarah Sanders simply lies non stop, unashamedly. It has become a joke. It was never that way before. Secondly they barely even do it anymore. It can be 6 weeks or more between briefings which is completely unheard of. I get what you are saying in that there are some democrats who will vilify any republican as the "worst ever" but the stats don't lie, Trump is a complete one off and has dismantled decades of presidential traditions. As the coward in chief would freely admit, he truly is a one off.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 May 19 11.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
He's back !! That I don't always post doesn't mean I am not reading. I have come to realise that there are a group of posters here whose views match those held by the type of American to be encountered on your average Trump supporting site. The kind for whom Trump could never do anything wrong and that any criticism of him must always be "fake news". Trying to have a reasonable debate with such people is largely a waste of time. So I read, smile and let it go as I am convinced that such views are in the minority. People always vote for change and when someone makes wild promises, but without a track record to examine, they are often prepared to "give them a chance". I am sure that some will go on being conned and believe all Trump's claims and lies but that sufficient good people will have seen through him, and his playground taunts, by 2020. By then the campaign slogan of the Democrats will surely be "Really Make America Great Again. Dump Trump". The last few weeks have been interesting and a pot is coming to the boil. Mueller testifying will be worth waiting for because he won't attack or say anything directly critical but what he will say will be damning.
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Maine Eagle USA 09 May 19 12.01am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Are you for real? Do you only follow Fox? That Mueller decided that proving collusion was not possible doesn't mean that there wasn't contemptible support of illegal activity by Russia or that indictments in other Courts aren't pending. There was no "hoax"! There was sufficient activity happening in plain sight to justify a FBI investigation. That the AJ has decided that a sitting President cannot be indicted doesn't mean he has been found not guilty. It just means we must wait and see what happens after he leaves office. The chances of him being indicted on obstruction of justice matters must be very, very high, when he leaves. The chances of a successful impeachment prior to that though remain low, given the balance of the Senate. His previous tax dodging, loss making, activities just adds context to the overall picture. This has been well known about for a long time but laying it all out now forces him to respond defensively. It might well have not been illegal, and just a constructed shell built by his tax advisers, but do we really want a person who takes this kind of route in the WH? We need someone with morals. Trump has no morality. Trump is a despicable man. You don't need to be politically right or left to come to that conclusion. Someone like him should never be close to wielding the kind of power that a POTUS holds. He is just not very bright, despite all his self aggrandisement claims. Being biased against Trump is the wise and natural response of every decent person. Evil needs to be resisted and called out. Anyone who defends him needs, in my opinion, to take a very long hard look at themselves before criticising those who attack him. Therein lies the irony of this thread which I have pointed out many times. With the way this cowardly, criminal, cheating, lying, crude, snide bully acts all of the time, being non biased towards him is down right biased. He is not capable of acting in a manner befitting a normal human being and my dog Finn is more presidential, and he drinks out of a toilet.
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Penge Eagle Beckenham 09 May 19 12.02am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Trump is a despicable man. You don't need to be politically right or left to come to that conclusion. Someone like him should never be close to wielding the kind of power that a POTUS holds. He is just not very bright, despite all his self aggrandisement claims. Being biased against Trump is the wise and natural response of every decent person. Evil needs to be resisted and called out. Anyone who defends him needs, in my opinion, to take a very long hard look at themselves before criticising those who attack him. The US president is there to govern the country – he's not there for moral guidance! That went out of the window many years ago. But as a leftist, you worship the state as God so I'm not surprised. EVERYONE knew Trump's flaws but still voted for him. When will you understand – they don't care! They care about jobs and he has delivered. You thought Mueller would nail Trump and you were wrong. In the meantime, keep speculating about anything Trump has done that would involve jail time if it makes you feel better. Edited by Penge Eagle (09 May 2019 12.03am)
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Maine Eagle USA 09 May 19 12.05am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So obama jailing dinesh d'souza was a good example of then. Suprised you didnt mention Hillary, thats what you guys do normally isnt it? Obama was not a perfect president, and made many, many mistakes. However he is not a bully. He is not a con artist. He is not a sex pest who said he would date his own daughter. He is not a criminal who obstructs justice. He is not a climate change denier. He is not a coward unwilling to even attempt to tackle the gun problem here. I could go on. I never said Trump is the only person who sets bad examples. He just sets the most of any president in history, and is a pathological liar and con artist. D'Souza plead GUILTY?? Not sure I get your point therefore.
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Penge Eagle Beckenham 09 May 19 12.08am | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Therein lies the irony of this thread which I have pointed out many times. With the way this cowardly, criminal, cheating, lying, crude, snide bully acts all of the time, being non biased towards him is down right biased. He is not capable of acting in a manner befitting a normal human being and my dog Finn is more presidential, and he drinks out of a toilet. One could level exactly the same at Obama – but it's not very intellectual. I'd rather compare policies and achievements with facts, which is easier to debate than emotional rants.
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Maine Eagle USA 09 May 19 12.17am | |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
The US president is there to govern the country – he's not there for moral guidance! That went out of the window many years ago. But as a leftist, you worship the state as God so I'm not surprised. EVERYONE knew Trump's flaws but still voted for him. When will you understand – they don't care! They care about jobs and he has delivered. You thought Mueller would nail Trump and you were wrong. In the meantime, keep speculating about anything Trump has done that would involve jail time if it makes you feel better. Edited by Penge Eagle (09 May 2019 12.03am) There are degrees of moral guidance. A president such as Obama had the ability to offer some level of comfort and compassion for the next batch of victims of the endless gun violence here. He had some gravitas, credibility and empathy. A president such as Reagan had the ability on some levels to unite people in difficult times and be remotely inclusive. Trump can only divide us. He brings nothing together, he destroys rather than builds. Trump is a failure as a leader. That is dangerous for a President. Bob Mueller is an example of a true leader of men, garnering quiet respect, seeing as you mention him. Trump cannot lead, he can only lurch from one crisis to the next making bizarre and ill thought out decrees and trying to fire everyone except the yes men and sycophants who do his bidding, just like its a reality TV show. As for Mueller not nailing Trump, give him a chance, he is just getting warmed up Everyone didnt vote for Trump. He lost the popular vote to a seriously unpopular candidate embroiled in a huge crisis at election time in 2016. By your "everyone knew about Trump and voted accordingly" logic, lets look at the midterms shall we. Everyone knew Trump's flaws in the midterms, and he had his ass handed to him by a historic margin, and lost control of the house. I guess he regrets the enormous rebuke given to him by the American electorate in the midterms as the House subpoenas fly now.
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Maine Eagle USA 09 May 19 12.18am | |
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Trouble in paradise.
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Maine Eagle USA 09 May 19 12.20am | |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
One could level exactly the same at Obama – but it's not very intellectual. I'd rather compare policies and achievements with facts, which is easier to debate than emotional rants. Oooh lets get intellectual, hope the site can handle it. How exciting to get intellectual. Tell me all about the Trump policies and achievements you love?
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