Just my ears. I was listening to radio 4.

My glasses are varifocal, reactor lights. Not a hint of labourite there. They allow me to see everything in a clear way, whatever the outside conditions do to try to disrupt your vision.

You should try them. Single lenses tend to offer a very narrow view of the world!

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I don't think there is a simple or single answer to that.

There has also been a significant growth in the numbers of people retiring here and they now constitute a higher proportion of the population. Some are active and others less so. Like everywhere else we are living longer and the birth rate has declined. Some of the younger people look for work "up country" where the pay is now much better. This is a low wage economy. So we need people to work in the fields, in the building industry serving the needs of the newly arrived active retired. The tourist and local leisure industry demand a lot of labour. The NHS is a big employer here, as are care homes. There just isn't a pool of local people able and willing to service the needs of the people who now live here.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

A Champagne socialist to boot.

Sam Gyimah who joined the Lib Dems certainly won't be re-elected as MP for Surrey East if he stands in that constituency as it is a rock-solid Conservative seat with majorities of over 22,500 in the last two General Elections.

I really don't agree with putting anything more to the people. For a very long time. Let Parliament do its work, we are clearly into the end game now and it looks like we are finally going to leave with a deal by end of Jan. Both 'sides' have to accept compromise and get this done.

As is shown endlessly on this thread the issue is now so partisan people seem to have taken leave of their objective, rational senses and their ability to change minds or evolve opinion. Let's get this sorted and then whatever reality ensues, positive or negative, people will have to deal with the choices they made and the positions they took. Only then will people be able to say, definitively, you were wrong, or you were right.

All that said, I'd expect a fair few to remain in denial even as they trudge off to collect their P45, or witness sustained growth in the economy. These people should be sectioned and ignored, for they are no better than dogmatic, brainwashed, ignorant religious fanatics.

I have my guesses as to who on this thread falls into that category.

Time will tell.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

LOL. I would like to think that I fall into at least 3 out of those 4 categories.

And sectioning people? I suspect that would be the tactic should you get your ways about voting not being allowed to matter for very much in the future.

Perhaps the only true revelation to come from this Brexit fiasco is how fragile our collective notion of universal suffrage is. Of how it has only taken a single vote to go against how the supposed 'brightest and best' wanted it to and all of a sudden the basic principles of our democratic process in terms of one person, one vote suddenly becomes seen as a stumbling block.

Makes you realise how events in both Greece and Italy with Governments of technocrats being effectively imposed supposedly independent nations as their rulers actually is in line with much of supposed progressive thinking.

We are heading into scary, scary times.

And perhaps people such as myself are like Dinosaures with a socially liberal asteroid hurtling towards me and my kind at a speed that is frightening but I still have a choice as to whether I meet my end cowering in a cave or decide to take a stand out in the bright sunshine, defiantly sticking two fingers up and ready to head-butt my oncoming destruction full-on in the face.

Maybe I will end up sectioned but one thing I do know is that if I am locked up in a nuthouse, I will be in good company and we will still be more joyful and have more fun than the miserable, joyless, Godless f***s sticking us in there.

But who knows? Perhaps tomorrow does belong to us after all. Interesting result recently in Poland and with Salvini flying high in the Italian polls, the Right still has the momentum despite all the s*** being chucked at it.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.