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Coronavirus and the impact of Lockdown policy
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 Eden Eagle  Kent 04 Jan 24 4.35pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Hancock's statement about "scaring the pants off people" by exaggerating the danger. Not denying there was a potential risk but not one severe enough to warrant closing the country down for months. Thank you - I think we are on the same page that lockdowns were a massive overreaction to the issue. The point I was making is that people like WE will never agree as his position was/is driven by what was clearly the best scenario for him with extremely limited downside risk.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Jan 24 6.57pm |
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Originally posted by Eden Eagle
Thank you - I think we are on the same page that lockdowns were a massive overreaction to the issue. The point I was making is that people like WE will never agree as his position was/is driven by what was clearly the best scenario for him with extremely limited downside risk. It has absolutely nothing to do with what was best for me personally and I regard any such suggestion as an insult. My attitude on this, and on all things political, is what is best for the country as a whole. Others will know I have advocated for higher taxation on people like me, because I think we can afford it.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Jan 24 6.59pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
There is no evidence whatsoever that the alternatives would have produced worse outcomes. Those making the decision clearly disagreed.
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Teddy Eagle  04 Jan 24 7.01pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It has absolutely nothing to do with what was best for me personally and I regard any such suggestion as an insult. My attitude on this, and on all things political, is what is best for the country as a whole. Others will know I have advocated for higher taxation on people like me, because I think we can afford it. I think it's more about post facto views of lockdown affected by different experiences both during and after rather than an allegation.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Jan 24 7.02pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Nice deflection. Choose more responsible representatives? How do you propose we do that? The same way everyone should. Choose decent people. Ignore party labels. Advocate for PR and change. If enough want it, it can be done.
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| Eden Eagle Kent 04 Jan 24 7.06pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It has absolutely nothing to do with what was best for me personally and I regard any such suggestion as an insult. My attitude on this, and on all things political, is what is best for the country as a whole. Others will know I have advocated for higher taxation on people like me, because I think we can afford it. It was not meant as an insult WE - as I explained in a previous post for someone in your position it would be understandable to support lockdowns as you would (I assume) not be at risk of the many and considerable downsides to this policy. Your income was guaranteed, you had no risk of redundancy or loss of business, no children's education to be ruined via remote learning and you live in a nice part of the country with access to outside space. This is not about levels of taxation but rather what was patently the best course of action for you personally.
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 georgenorman 04 Jan 24 7.19pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It has absolutely nothing to do with what was best for me personally and I regard any such suggestion as an insult. My attitude on this, and on all things political, is what is best for the country as a whole. Others will know I have advocated for higher taxation on people like me, because I think we can afford it. What on earth makes you think that higher taxation is best for the country as a whole - it is quite the opposite.
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| georgenorman 04 Jan 24 7.34pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Those making the decision clearly disagreed. Clearly, and they were wrong.
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| Teddy Eagle 04 Jan 24 8.07pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The same way everyone should. Choose decent people. Ignore party labels. Advocate for PR and change. If enough want it, it can be done. So it's just a question of deciding on their decency based on the image they present when trying to get elected. That's pretty straightforward.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Jan 24 9.12am |
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Originally posted by Eden Eagle
It was not meant as an insult WE - as I explained in a previous post for someone in your position it would be understandable to support lockdowns as you would (I assume) not be at risk of the many and considerable downsides to this policy. Your income was guaranteed, you had no risk of redundancy or loss of business, no children's education to be ruined via remote learning and you live in a nice part of the country with access to outside space. This is not about levels of taxation but rather what was patently the best course of action for you personally. You might not have intended it as an insult but I regard it as one. I am perfectly capable of separating what’s best for me from what’s best for the country. It’s like the idea that where I happen to live means I am incapable of thinking or travelling. Which is what one regular poster here seems to think. I have run businesses. I know full well the stresses that can bring. So rather than be unaffected I am able to understand that rather better than, say, a schoolteacher. I owned a nursery. I have grandchildren and great grandchildren at schools and university. Do you think I was unaware of the impact on them?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Jan 24 9.13am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
What on earth makes you think that higher taxation is best for the country as a whole - it is quite the opposite. Not higher. Distributed differently.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Jan 24 9.16am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Clearly, and they were wrong. They having access to expert opinion and detailed analysis and whose job it is to study the issues. You probably read the Sun or the Mail. Or watch GBNews. I think I know who I trust!
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