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Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 Apr 20 6.08pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That's why most of them won't have any additional expense involved so won't be claiming, or if any tried would be refused.

The froth that some people work themselves into over nothing is always amusing to witness but right now it's really disappointing. We are all in this together and from what I see our MPs, of all parties, are doing their best in very difficult circumstances to stay calm, offer reassurance and support the government's efforts.

As you know I have been no great admirer of the politics and political maneuvering of the current Tory Party, However I am very supportive of the way they are handling this and particularly of Boris Johnson who has done his damnedest to be a real leader at a time of national crisis. His heartfelt tribute to the care he received really touched me. I wish him well.

The time for hindsight and learning lessons comes later. Right now we need to get behind our government and do what they are requiring of us. No questions. Just do it. Complaining about civil liberties being eroded at this time is irresponsible as it could encourage those who seek to ignore the needs of others by offering them excuses. Analysing the impact on our economic futures is for tomorrow, when we know when tomorrow might be. No government could turn it's back on this kind of emergency because of the possibility that the economic future might in the end cause more harm than if the emergency was ignored. The emergency is real and it's now. Economic futures are forecasts of tomorrows.

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Perhaps we should wait to see if any apply. It would take a brave/stupid person to do so though

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 Apr 20 6.12pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

A significant number of MP's also employ immediate/close family members as their staff. So these additional expenses all go into the same household in a very large number of cases.

In the meantime, a significant number of frontline NHS workers are doing their jobs without correct PPE. Some getting ill. Some even dying.

Coupled with the "NHS is coping" narrative, further details have emerged of existing patients treatment programs being suspended to cope with CV19.
Obviously a bit 'awkward' if you are undergoing treatment for cancer, etc ?

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (13 Apr 2020 5.22pm)

Last week I took my mother-in-law for her quarterly eye injection. As she is 89, suffers from high blood pressure, diabetes and asthma, I called the hospital and asked if they were still going ahead with this. They were adamant that as she was receiving this regularly they wanted to continue. Just my experience obviously

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 13 Apr 20 6.40pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

More PPE shortages, by the BBC

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 13 Apr 20 6.43pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Last week I took my mother-in-law for her quarterly eye injection. As she is 89, suffers from high blood pressure, diabetes and asthma, I called the hospital and asked if they were still going ahead with this. They were adamant that as she was receiving this regularly they wanted to continue. Just my experience obviously

My own/close family members recent experiences of NHS services have been excellent.
None of them were scheduled for cancer treatment, though.
My own A&E experiences have been excellent at best, and life-threatening at worst

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Apr 20 7.31pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That's why most of them won't have any additional expense involved so won't be claiming, or if any tried would be refused.

The froth that some people work themselves into over nothing is always amusing to witness but right now it's really disappointing. We are all in this together and from what I see our MPs, of all parties, are doing their best in very difficult circumstances to stay calm, offer reassurance and support the government's efforts.

As you know I have been no great admirer of the politics and political maneuvering of the current Tory Party, However I am very supportive of the way they are handling this and particularly of Boris Johnson who has done his damnedest to be a real leader at a time of national crisis. His heartfelt tribute to the care he received really touched me. I wish him well.

The time for hindsight and learning lessons comes later. Right now we need to get behind our government and do what they are requiring of us. No questions. Just do it. Complaining about civil liberties being eroded at this time is irresponsible as it could encourage those who seek to ignore the needs of others by offering them excuses. Analysing the impact on our economic futures is for tomorrow, when we know when tomorrow might be. No government could turn it's back on this kind of emergency because of the possibility that the economic future might in the end cause more harm than if the emergency was ignored. The emergency is real and it's now. Economic futures are forecasts of tomorrows.

Come on now. We’re all in this together but MP’s are given the opportunity to claim £10k to work from home on top of £80k while everyone else takes a 20% pay cut of guaranteed pay up to £25k.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 Apr 20 7.59pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

More PPE shortages, by the BBC

[Link]

Ah! The impartial BBC

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Apr 20 8.23pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Come on now. We’re all in this together but MP’s are given the opportunity to claim £10k to work from home on top of £80k while everyone else takes a 20% pay cut of guaranteed pay up to £25k.

The headline in the referenced article makes it look as though every MP has been given £10,000 to set up a home office and it simply isn't true. Some posters though don't appear to have read beyond the headline.

Making sure that MPs are able to support their constituencies during this period seems vital to me. If they faced the need to make extra arrangements and therefore extra costs it follows they should be compensated and not hindered in doing so. I would expect every responsible employer to do the same.

The MPs themselves played no part in this. It was done entirely by the "Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority.

Whether the MPs take a pay cut is something I expect the government to decide upon in due time but would imagine will happen. I suspect there have been other priorities in the past weeks though.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 13 Apr 20 8.27pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The headline in the referenced article makes it look as though every MP has been given £10,000 to set up a home office and it simply isn't true. Some posters though don't appear to have read beyond the headline.

Making sure that MPs are able to support their constituencies during this period seems vital to me. If they faced the need to make extra arrangements and therefore extra costs it follows they should be compensated and not hindered in doing so. I would expect every responsible employer to do the same.

The MPs themselves played no part in this. It was done entirely by the "Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority.

Whether the MPs take a pay cut is something I expect the government to decide upon in due time but would imagine will happen. I suspect there have been other priorities in the past weeks though.

Still doesn’t answer why everyone else is expected to work from home on a £6 allowance while they need potential access to thousands.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 Apr 20 8.52pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The headline in the referenced article makes it look as though every MP has been given £10,000 to set up a home office and it simply isn't true. Some posters though don't appear to have read beyond the headline.

Making sure that MPs are able to support their constituencies during this period seems vital to me. If they faced the need to make extra arrangements and therefore extra costs it follows they should be compensated and not hindered in doing so. I would expect every responsible employer to do the same.

The MPs themselves played no part in this. It was done entirely by the "Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority.

Whether the MPs take a pay cut is something I expect the government to decide upon in due time but would imagine will happen. I suspect there have been other priorities in the past weeks though.

I think posters are well aware of the content. Certainly Becky questioned why they need extra money to be able to work from home when surely they have the necessary tools already, a point I agree with. All must have a constituency office, which they would be allowed to travel to, if they are considered critical workers. Moreover I stand by my previous comments about the timing of this announcement

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 13 Apr 20 9.02pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority.

A five person board where the legislation requires the Board to include a former High Court judge, a qualified auditor and an ex-MP.....Really represents the public that doesn't it.

All elites....Elites deciding upon the pay and expenses of elites.

A con job dressed up as ethics.

If they ever came up with a decision the MPs didn't like they would find themselves never getting another nicely paid position on a Quango or one of several nudge nudge advantages of the old boy network for those that 'serve'.


Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Apr 2020 9.21pm)

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 13 Apr 20 9.15pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Come on now. We’re all in this together but MP’s are given the opportunity to claim £10k to work from home on top of £80k while everyone else takes a 20% pay cut of guaranteed pay up to £25k.

That"s different, they work very hard! I think they all do an exceptional job and we are lucky to have them!

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 13 Apr 20 9.35pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

That"s different, they work very hard! I think they all do an exceptional job and we are lucky to have them!

Oh, no doubt. That’s why they’re held in such universally high esteem. They’re fabulous. They don’t even speak badly of each other.

 

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