Oh dear, the level of misrepresentation is reaching new heights and occuring on a daily basis now. So let me be quite clear. I don't support the Police over the grooming gangs, or indeed over Hillsborough. I can hear the gasps of disbelief and incredulity down here in Cornwall, so let me explain what I mean.

I support the Police. Period. Always. In everything and every way. I believe it's the duty of every citizen to support our Police at all times.

That doesn't mean they are perfect. Nothing run by people can ever be perfect. They make mistakes. They take decisions that, with the benefit of hindsight, can subsequently look to be grave errors. Sometimes their management systems fail and need radical overhaul. Sometimes they are working under government imposed restrictions we are unaware of. These days they work under enormous pressure, with stretched manpower and resources so they need our support and understanding more than ever.

Like everyone else the Police can learn from their mistakes and serve us better as a consequence. What they need is for us to have their backs, providing as much physical and moral support as possible.

What they don't need are loud mouthed trouble makers, and their apologists, making their job more difficult.

"Robinson" was apparently arrested for taking the law into his own hands and causing someone actual bodily harm. If true that's no one's fault other than his own.

That someone was alleged to have "groped his child" doesn't mean that they did, or if the evidence to prove they did, or did not, exists. That's why the Police need to quietly and objectively review the evidence and decide what action is appropriate. It's not revolutionary. It's standard procedure. If there is a history of similar complaints at the same location then that might raise the level of the investigation.

I do agree though with one thing. The recording does reveal all you need to know. Which is that "Robinson" is still the aggressive loud mouth he has always been and the the Police are doing their job.

whatever happened to 'innocent til proven guilty' or in your mind because its TR he must be guilty! Because he has previous he MUST be guilty??

Where on earth do you get that idea from? Of course he is innocent until proven guilty. We won't know unless and until he comes before a Court and a judgement is given. Just as the alleged "groper" is. "Robinson" was arrested because the evidence demanded he was. That's not though being found guilty. It's just being arrested on suspicion.

You trust the police? Except when it doesnt suit your agenda to trust them..ie grooming gangs...

Again where do you get that idea from? I haven't spoken of "trust" I have spoken of supporting the Police. However I do trust the Police to do all they can to find and prosecute these criminals. Which might well be limited by the resources they have available.

yet you expect everyone else to trust them 100%?? Really?

People will make up their own minds on trust but I do think everyone needs to support our Police. Trust depends more on whether you think they have enough tools to do their jobs effectively.

Dont know about you BUT if someone groped my 8 year old daughter I would certainly do what TR did, or more, rather than wait for a policeman.....

Taking the law into your own hands can never be justified. It might be hard but we all need to show restraint. Calling for support from the security at the site would have been a whole lot wiser in "Robinson's" case.

Well should they then their reasoning would be just as puzzling as it concerns hypocrisy.

Robinson regularly records his dealings with the police.....errrr, just how 'secret' is that? The Police also record dealings with the public....this poster's criticism of this is inane.

Why should he or the Police be concerned if everything is above board. But then again, we know that this poster is a one arm bandit when it comes to being even handed.

I'll state once again, Robinson has zero reasons to trust the Police. In my view their treatment of him has been disgusting.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Mar 2020 2.41pm)

Any individual, or group of individuals, found guilty of deliberate cover ups deserve to have the book thrown at them.

That though is not a reason to castigate the whole of the British Police force. As an institution it deserves, indeed it demands, our support.

I still have many nagging doubts about the events at Hillsborough which continues to make me feel very uncomfortable that the whole truth has not yet been found, despite all the enquiries. Scapegoats have been offered up but something still doesn't feel right to me. Not, I hasten to add, with anything to do with the way the Police acted but about events well before they got involved. Don't ask me for any more because I cannot put a finger on it but something doesn't fit.

I have no more idea than anyone else whether there is a long term strategy in place to try handle potential flash points between communities. I hope there is, but what it is, is a mystery.