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Hoof Hearted 28 Mar 15 11.34am

Quote legaleagle at 28 Mar 2015 11.33am

Warren is...Alf Wasn't. Quite right Hoof.


"Alf" was only pretend eagle!

 
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EricYoung'sSweatBand Flag 28 Mar 15 11.39am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 10.43am

Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 28 Mar 2015 8.48am

I'm not back peddling I've been quite clear.

To quote you actually

"Ethnic minorities play the race card constantly for self interest purposes"

You've managed to show me one article where one person played the race card in 2011. Forgive me for not being convinced that 'ethnic minorities' 'constantly' play the race card.

Showing one person playing the race card is no more evidence that ethnic minorities play the race card than me calling white people racists and posting a link of Nick Griffin being racist

It's a simple question and not a pedantic one so I don't know why you're struggling with it. Did you mean that occasionally one or two people who are from ethnic minorities may play the race card or did you mean what you said?


You are coming across as a pedant to me....

Nope. If you're gonna make broad assertions you'd better be prepared to back them up. No one has been able to.

 
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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Mar 15 11.41am

Quote legaleagle at 28 Mar 2015 11.33am

Warren is...Alf Wasn't. Quite right Hoof.


Johnny Speight was left wing.

 
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Hoof Hearted 28 Mar 15 11.45am

Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 28 Mar 2015 11.39am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 10.43am

Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 28 Mar 2015 8.48am

I'm not back peddling I've been quite clear.

To quote you actually

"Ethnic minorities play the race card constantly for self interest purposes"

You've managed to show me one article where one person played the race card in 2011. Forgive me for not being convinced that 'ethnic minorities' 'constantly' play the race card.

Showing one person playing the race card is no more evidence that ethnic minorities play the race card than me calling white people racists and posting a link of Nick Griffin being racist

It's a simple question and not a pedantic one so I don't know why you're struggling with it. Did you mean that occasionally one or two people who are from ethnic minorities may play the race card or did you mean what you said?


You are coming across as a pedant to me....

Nope. If you're gonna make broad assertions you'd better be prepared to back them up. No one has been able to.


...... your further denial has made me change my mind........ you're a bore

... and for that reason, I'm out.

 
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Hoof Hearted 28 Mar 15 11.46am

Quote nickgusset at 28 Mar 2015 11.41am

Quote legaleagle at 28 Mar 2015 11.33am

Warren is...Alf Wasn't. Quite right Hoof.


Johnny Speight was left wing.


There was a spate of it in the 60's nick!

 
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EricYoung'sSweatBand Flag 28 Mar 15 11.52am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 11.45am

Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 28 Mar 2015 11.39am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 10.43am

Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 28 Mar 2015 8.48am

I'm not back peddling I've been quite clear.

To quote you actually

"Ethnic minorities play the race card constantly for self interest purposes"

You've managed to show me one article where one person played the race card in 2011. Forgive me for not being convinced that 'ethnic minorities' 'constantly' play the race card.

Showing one person playing the race card is no more evidence that ethnic minorities play the race card than me calling white people racists and posting a link of Nick Griffin being racist

It's a simple question and not a pedantic one so I don't know why you're struggling with it. Did you mean that occasionally one or two people who are from ethnic minorities may play the race card or did you mean what you said?


You are coming across as a pedant to me....

Nope. If you're gonna make broad assertions you'd better be prepared to back them up. No one has been able to.


...... your further denial has made me change my mind........ you're a bore

... and for that reason, I'm out.

It's boring being wrong isn't it

 
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crystal balls Flag The Garden of Earthly Delights 28 Mar 15 12.28pm Send a Private Message to crystal balls Add crystal balls as a friend

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 28 Mar 2015 10.14am

Quote matt_himself at 28 Mar 2015 10.08am

Quote crystal balls at 28 Mar 2015 9.58am

Quote matt_himself at 28 Mar 2015 8.15am

Quote crystal balls at 28 Mar 2015 5.27am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 27 Mar 2015 7.32pm

Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 7.16pm

Quote imbored at 27 Mar 2015 6.35pm

Farage will revel in taking part and will outperform everyone I think.

Somebody on here mentioned that Cameron kept mentioning the economy. All you will get from Farage is the EU and immigration.What are their policies on the economy, NHS,Education, Law and Order etc etc ? Will they stand up to intense scrutiny ? Will Farage be their lone spokesman in the election campaign or will they dare to unleash some of the others other than their current two MPs Carswell and Reckless? Fascinating !

Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 7.17pm)

I'm sure Farage will do just fine speaking about the economy. After all, being a former stockbroker he does have some first-hand experience on the matter as opposed to the others who are just career politicians.

Farage wasn't a "stockbroker" (though his father was), he was a commodities trader. This basically involves betting on the future prices of various commodities; he tended to specialise in metals. Trading involves very much a gambler's mindset, and Farage apparently made some good bets and some bad ones, making and losing large sums for his employers.

Working as a commodities trader confers no first-hand, second hand or even third hand experience of running a nations economy.

The gambler's instinct has continued right up to the current election campaign. Farage has pledged that if he doesn't get elected as an MP in May he will resign as UKIP leader. He's put all his chips on red, and if black comes up he'll be gone, and so will UKIP.

Wishful thinking Mr Balls.

When Nige steps to one side, Douglas Carswell will lead UKiP. Carswell would be an excellent leader who would offer natural progression from Nige.

You obviously like to get a boner from thinking that UKIP will all be over soon. It won't. Politics is only going to get more fragmented over the next few years and parties like UKiP and, unfortunately, the Greens, will be around for a while.


Carswell;

[Link]

Fawlty;

[Link]

I believe he can do the silly walk as well!

Edited by crystal balls (28 Mar 2015 10.00am)

Edited by crystal balls (28 Mar 2015 10.02am)


Cutting satire there, Balls.

Tell me, who will you vote for?


Like a lot of people on here Matt, many posters are keen to knock ukip but even keener to hide their own alliances as they don’t wish for their own parties to be ridiculed or questioned as they themselves are doing. Most when asked who they will vote for just give some vague answer about still being undecided. There really are some utter bell ends on here.


I thought that this thread is about UKIP; posters with comments about UKIP both for and against? If you think they are the answer you can make your feelings known, if you don't think they are, surely you can comment accordingly?

What appears to be indisputable is that polls have shown consistently for many months now that UKIP have support of about 12-14% of voters, which means that between 86 and 88% don't think they are fit to govern.

This is likely to produce between 1 and 5 UKIP MPs, and they will finish second in around 100 constituencies. Unless Farage wins his seat, this is likely to be a high point for them. To make any real progress they would need some form of proportional representation to be introduced, which isn't likely to happen while Tories and Labour control things.

 

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legaleagle Flag 28 Mar 15 12.52pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 11.34am

Quote legaleagle at 28 Mar 2015 11.33am

Warren is...Alf Wasn't. Quite right Hoof.


"Alf" was only pretend eagle!


Blimey Hoof, you've stumped me!There was me thinking Alf was a real living person rather than a satirical TV caricature of an archetypal right wing Londoner of a certain age and hue...If we're going to play stereotypes,always good to take on board stereotypes from all sides of the spectrum,no?..or are stereotypes only valid when its the left being stereotyped?

 
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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 28 Mar 15 12.54pm

Quote crystal balls at 28 Mar 2015 12.28pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 28 Mar 2015 10.14am

Quote matt_himself at 28 Mar 2015 10.08am

Quote crystal balls at 28 Mar 2015 9.58am

Quote matt_himself at 28 Mar 2015 8.15am

Quote crystal balls at 28 Mar 2015 5.27am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 27 Mar 2015 7.32pm

Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 7.16pm

Quote imbored at 27 Mar 2015 6.35pm

Farage will revel in taking part and will outperform everyone I think.

Somebody on here mentioned that Cameron kept mentioning the economy. All you will get from Farage is the EU and immigration.What are their policies on the economy, NHS,Education, Law and Order etc etc ? Will they stand up to intense scrutiny ? Will Farage be their lone spokesman in the election campaign or will they dare to unleash some of the others other than their current two MPs Carswell and Reckless? Fascinating !

Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 7.17pm)

I'm sure Farage will do just fine speaking about the economy. After all, being a former stockbroker he does have some first-hand experience on the matter as opposed to the others who are just career politicians.

Farage wasn't a "stockbroker" (though his father was), he was a commodities trader. This basically involves betting on the future prices of various commodities; he tended to specialise in metals. Trading involves very much a gambler's mindset, and Farage apparently made some good bets and some bad ones, making and losing large sums for his employers.

Working as a commodities trader confers no first-hand, second hand or even third hand experience of running a nations economy.

The gambler's instinct has continued right up to the current election campaign. Farage has pledged that if he doesn't get elected as an MP in May he will resign as UKIP leader. He's put all his chips on red, and if black comes up he'll be gone, and so will UKIP.

Wishful thinking Mr Balls.

When Nige steps to one side, Douglas Carswell will lead UKiP. Carswell would be an excellent leader who would offer natural progression from Nige.

You obviously like to get a boner from thinking that UKIP will all be over soon. It won't. Politics is only going to get more fragmented over the next few years and parties like UKiP and, unfortunately, the Greens, will be around for a while.


Carswell;

[Link]

Fawlty;

[Link]

I believe he can do the silly walk as well!

Edited by crystal balls (28 Mar 2015 10.00am)

Edited by crystal balls (28 Mar 2015 10.02am)


Cutting satire there, Balls.

Tell me, who will you vote for?


Like a lot of people on here Matt, many posters are keen to knock ukip but even keener to hide their own alliances as they don’t wish for their own parties to be ridiculed or questioned as they themselves are doing. Most when asked who they will vote for just give some vague answer about still being undecided. There really are some utter bell ends on here.


I thought that this thread is about UKIP; posters with comments about UKIP both for and against? If you think they are the answer you can make your feelings known, if you don't think they are, surely you can comment accordingly?

What appears to be indisputable is that polls have shown consistently for many months now that UKIP have support of about 12-14% of voters, which means that between 86 and 88% don't think they are fit to govern.

This is likely to produce between 1 and 5 UKIP MPs, and they will finish second in around 100 constituencies. Unless Farage wins his seat, this is likely to be a high point for them. To make any real progress they would need some form of proportional representation to be introduced, which isn't likely to happen while Tories and Labour control things.


So you wont say who you vote for then?

 

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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legaleagle Flag 28 Mar 15 12.58pm

Quote crystal balls at 28 Mar 2015 12.28pm


I thought that this thread is about UKIP; posters with comments about UKIP both for and against? If you think they are the answer you can make your feelings known, if you don't think they are, surely you can comment accordingly?

What appears to be indisputable is that polls have shown consistently for many months now that UKIP have support of about 12-14% of voters, which means that between 86 and 88% don't think they are fit to govern.

This is likely to produce between 1 and 5 UKIP MPs, and they will finish second in around 100 constituencies. Unless Farage wins his seat, this is likely to be a high point for them. To make any real progress they would need some form of proportional representation to be introduced, which isn't likely to happen while Tories and Labour control things.


How very unreasonable of you

Surely you know that if you post on this thread from a position supportive of UKIP you are an open minded,reasoned sort of person,not prone to personal abuse, expressing well thought out arguments.Whereas if you post any kind of critical content you are definitely a biased snivelling "lefty" who wants to dress up and play Che Guevera to distract everyone from the unions wanting to enslave our once great nation while our heritage and culture are swamped to death?

Edited by legaleagle (28 Mar 2015 12.59pm)

 
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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 28 Mar 15 1.12pm

Quote legaleagle at 28 Mar 2015 12.58pm

Quote crystal balls at 28 Mar 2015 12.28pm


I thought that this thread is about UKIP; posters with comments about UKIP both for and against? If you think they are the answer you can make your feelings known, if you don't think they are, surely you can comment accordingly?

What appears to be indisputable is that polls have shown consistently for many months now that UKIP have support of about 12-14% of voters, which means that between 86 and 88% don't think they are fit to govern.

This is likely to produce between 1 and 5 UKIP MPs, and they will finish second in around 100 constituencies. Unless Farage wins his seat, this is likely to be a high point for them. To make any real progress they would need some form of proportional representation to be introduced, which isn't likely to happen while Tories and Labour control things.


How very unreasonable of you

Surely you know that if you post on this thread from a position supportive of UKIP you are an open minded,reasoned sort of person,not prone to personal abuse, expressing well thought out arguments.Whereas if you post any kind of critical content you are definitely a biased snivelling "lefty" who wants to dress up and play Che Guevera to distract everyone from the unions wanting to enslave our once great nation while our heritage and culture are swamped to death?

Edited by legaleagle (28 Mar 2015 12.59pm)


Legal- sounds like my comments may have struck a nerve with you.. he he

Just funny, people throwing their comments from behind a wall and not being man enough to stand up and reveal their own political identities. We can all be critical, it’s the easiest thing in the world to do, any cab driver will tell you how the country should be run and who’s to blame for what. Russell Brand will spout all his blame rhetoric but offer no solutions. Knocking people and parties is pretty easy, finding and offering alternatives prove a little more difficult.

Who do you vote for Legal? Or are you too chicken to say to? It’s a simple question

 

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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legaleagle Flag 28 Mar 15 1.15pm

I think you may mistake sarcasm for sensitivity,mate.Actually I thought your post I responded to was perfectly reasonable...

Let's put it this way:I am genuinely undecided.But it definitely won't be Tory, Lib Dem, or UKIP! .I may even not vote on the principle any vote would be more negative than positive, given I find it hard to feel passionate overall about Labour or the Greens ...though I was formerly a Labour Party member until during the Blair years,at one time worked for a front bench Labour MP as their "researcher" and I bear in mind the saying of Richard Neville,one of the founders of OZ magazine imprisoned for "obscenity" in about 1971..."there may only be an inch of difference between the main parties..but its that inch we live in".

If it was a rerun of the 1945 election,with an Attlee type Labour election manifesto against Churchill's Tories,then there would be no doubt in my mind where my X would go...

The idea of only being able to be a "real man" if I disclose the above (which is no big deal to me) does strike me as rather silly though..but that's just my opinion.

Edited by legaleagle (28 Mar 2015 1.41pm)

 
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