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cryrst The garden of England 21 Oct 19 11.06am | |
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Originally posted by chris123
I think it's worse that Oliver Letwin isn't standing and for him to actually risk something. Maybe a no deal brexit will ruin his plans.
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Spiderman Horsham 21 Oct 19 11.33am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Whilst I agree with you in principle I don't think that Letwin is standing again so he will have to fund repairs to his tennis court himself in the future. Soubry on the other hand won't win another election in her current constituency as whilst they voted overwhelmingly to leave Anna Soubry has consistently ignored the wishes of her constituents Now you've done it..... wait for the Wissie repetitive post
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Oct 19 11.49am | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I don't see any "hard core" Remainers. I see people who have always thought that remaining was better but who accepted Parliament's decisions. You have excelled yourself Wissie, let me give you a little help: The SNP, The LIBDEMS,The GREENS, Ken Clarke, Anna Soubry, Chuka Umunna, Dominic Grieve, David Gaulke...just for starters. I don't see anything "hardcore" about anyone on that list. I see dedicated MPs trying their to do what they believe to be in our best interests. The LibDems have as clear a policy on the EU as Farage and the ERG have. Both the latter would have continued to campaign if the result has been to remain. In a democracy that's everyone's right, including the LibDems. You can use whatever language you wish. That's your right. It doesn't mean I have to agree with you.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Oct 19 11.55am | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Actually I have searched who funded their trip...Best for Britain group,anti Brexit group ..guess what they have had soros money...well colour me shocked. We have been round this track 100 pages ago! No Soros money is currently involved in funding "Best for Britain". An "Open Society" foundation he funds, but which operates independently, provided some seed funding and was immediately attacked for doing so in the right wing press, which is probably where you get these ideas.
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Spiderman Horsham 21 Oct 19 12.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I don't see anything "hardcore" about anyone on that list. I see dedicated MPs trying their to do what they believe to be in our best interests. The LibDems have as clear a policy on the EU as Farage and the ERG have. Both the latter would have continued to campaign if the result has been to remain. In a democracy that's everyone's right, including the LibDems. You can use whatever language you wish. That's your right. It doesn't mean I have to agree with you.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Oct 19 12.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
If it's illegal then why has the court not set the decision aside. Why has she not complained to the Electoral Commission. Where is her evidence of corruption? If it's so significant to impact the vote why have the courts and or parliament and or the Electoral Commission not called for a re-run. This is pretty desperate even for Remainers. I guess you could call her claims fake news, oh that's ironic! Edited by Badger11 (21 Oct 2019 8.19am) It's a good question. The government did consider the evidence and decided that it was politically unwise to try to overturn the result but whether a legal challenge would have done so is obviously an open question. I don't know if it was even considered and if so what the conclusions reached were, but it did not reach a Court. Not yet anyway. Complaining to the Electoral Commission would be a waste of time. Their role is small and very specific. They don't get involved in whether a campaign is legal or not, only if it's finances are correct. There is nothing the least bit fake about a chart which details the trend of people's voting intentions flipping at the precise moment that fake claims by a campaign received widespread publicity, only to revert to their previous state a few months later. It's pretty conclusive evidence of the impact. Not on devoted opponents of EU membership but on the swing voters. When only a 2% less of a swing would have reversed the result this was critical.
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Lyons550 Shirley 21 Oct 19 12.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I don't see anything "hardcore" about anyone on that list. I see dedicated MPs trying their to do what they believe to be in our best interests. The LibDems have as clear a policy on the EU as Farage and the ERG have. Both the latter would have continued to campaign if the result has been to remain. In a democracy that's everyone's right, including the LibDems. You can use whatever language you wish. That's your right. It doesn't mean I have to agree with you.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Oct 19 12.13pm | |
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Originally posted by the silurian
as most of them are remainers I doubt your assertion, wissy..How on earth are they able to be there EVERY day if they have jobs?? Therefore they are Hardcore in my opinion (which believe it or not is as valid as yours)...suppose if you didnt live in Cornwall you would be there too, giving them the benefit of your 'experience'? On Saturday most supported remaining in the EU but not every day. They come from both sides of the argument. My son in law has been there protesting. He works in the city, so goes after work and at weekends. People work shifts. Some are retired. There are many reasons how people can give up their time to protest. Would I be there? To observe and listen. Maybe. Not to protest. I really don't see the point.
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steeleye20 Croydon 21 Oct 19 12.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
A 'Karl Marx' style memorial surely would be appropriate....
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Oct 19 12.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Whilst I agree with you in principle I don't think that Letwin is standing again so he will have to fund repairs to his tennis court himself in the future. Soubry on the other hand won't win another election in her current constituency as whilst they voted overwhelmingly to leave Anna Soubry has consistently ignored the wishes of her constituents Many will admire her for having the courage of her convictions and doing what she believes to be right, despite the pressure and the prospect of losing her job as a consequence. I would always vote for an MP of conviction rather then a lobby sheep, irrespective of whether or not I agreed with them on any particular issue. Only time will tell whether there are enough people of principle in her constituency to return her again.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Oct 19 12.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
I have a much better one than that, but as I don't intend for it to be used for a good while yet, it's subject to revision in the light of experience. Much like referendums.
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steeleye20 Croydon 21 Oct 19 12.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Many will admire her for having the courage of her convictions and doing what she believes to be right, despite the pressure and the prospect of losing her job as a consequence. I would always vote for an MP of conviction rather then a lobby sheep, irrespective of whether or not I agreed with them on any particular issue. Only time will tell whether there are enough people of principle in her constituency to return her again. I fancy her, got to say..... Bit of a dominatrix, hopefully
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