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Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 Apr 20 12.36pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by becky


I would have thought that most of them should already have the means to run a home office already, and if they don't, then the level of work they will be doing (with the House shut) could easily be achieved from the kitchen table, like so many other home workers.

It's not as if they need a whole special room to see constituents in for private meetings, and nor should they be meeting with their Agent or employing outside staff.

Totally agree. Unbelievable really that any money is being made available. Interesting to see if any who have criticised the lack of NHS funding take up this offer.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 Apr 20 12.42pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

From my reading of the article this is a storm in a teacup. The office which determines how MP's expenses can be claimed has made up to £10,000 each available for any expenses found necessary to establish and run a home office during this period.

It will still need to be justified and accounted for. It's not a blanket payment of £10,000 to everyone, so not a "pay rise". In fact, as some have said, many won't be claiming anything at all and as their travel and similar expenses will all now be nothing, their overall net expenses are going to reduce, not increase.

It's merely a budget exercise. Introducing a new expenses line where none previously existed.

You may be right but I am not convinced. Introducing a new expenses line at this time is at best somewhat insensitive or at worst immoral

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 13 Apr 20 2.25pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


Anyone else working from home can claim a flat rate £6 a week. Unless MPs are expecting the lockdown to go on for 32 years they’re doing quite well here.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 13 Apr 20 2.34pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

It's elites supporting elites as usual.

Different day, same smelly stuff.

 


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 13 Apr 20 4.12pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by becky


I would have thought that most of them should already have the means to run a home office already, and if they don't, then the level of work they will be doing (with the House shut) could easily be achieved from the kitchen table, like so many other home workers.

It's not as if they need a whole special room to see constituents in for private meetings, and nor should they be meeting with their Agent or employing outside staff.


Exactly. You mean to tell me it costs 10K for a Laptop, printer & possibly some pens & pencils

 


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dannyboy1978 Flag 13 Apr 20 4.25pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Not to mention their above inflation pay rise this month, they really are a diffrent breed.
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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 13 Apr 20 5.04pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

So let me get this straight the rest of the country is taking a pay cut and these cnuts get a rise well they are certainly taking the rise out of the public.

And what exactly are they doing for their extra money? Parliament is closed so no legislation to examine. Yes they have their constituencies but they will be working from home so less travel time and no late nights in the commons.

Perhaps they should only be getting 80% of their salary.

A significant number of MP's also employ immediate/close family members as their staff. So these additional expenses all go into the same household in a very large number of cases.

In the meantime, a significant number of frontline NHS workers are doing their jobs without correct PPE. Some getting ill. Some even dying.

Coupled with the "NHS is coping" narrative, further details have emerged of existing patients treatment programs being suspended to cope with CV19.
Obviously a bit 'awkward' if you are undergoing treatment for cancer, etc ?

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (13 Apr 2020 5.22pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Apr 20 5.35pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by becky


I would have thought that most of them should already have the means to run a home office already, and if they don't, then the level of work they will be doing (with the House shut) could easily be achieved from the kitchen table, like so many other home workers.

It's not as if they need a whole special room to see constituents in for private meetings, and nor should they be meeting with their Agent or employing outside staff.

That's why most of them won't have any additional expense involved so won't be claiming, or if any tried would be refused.

The froth that some people work themselves into over nothing is always amusing to witness but right now it's really disappointing. We are all in this together and from what I see our MPs, of all parties, are doing their best in very difficult circumstances to stay calm, offer reassurance and support the government's efforts.

As you know I have been no great admirer of the politics and political maneuvering of the current Tory Party, However I am very supportive of the way they are handling this and particularly of Boris Johnson who has done his damnedest to be a real leader at a time of national crisis. His heartfelt tribute to the care he received really touched me. I wish him well.

The time for hindsight and learning lessons comes later. Right now we need to get behind our government and do what they are requiring of us. No questions. Just do it. Complaining about civil liberties being eroded at this time is irresponsible as it could encourage those who seek to ignore the needs of others by offering them excuses. Analysing the impact on our economic futures is for tomorrow, when we know when tomorrow might be. No government could turn it's back on this kind of emergency because of the possibility that the economic future might in the end cause more harm than if the emergency was ignored. The emergency is real and it's now. Economic futures are forecasts of tomorrows.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 13 Apr 20 5.45pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly


In the meantime, a significant number of frontline NHS workers are doing their jobs without correct PPE. Some getting ill. Some even dying.

I don't believe that to be the case. Where do you get your information from?

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 13 Apr 20 5.50pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Ongoing treatments changed/deferred

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PPE shortage stories

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Priti Patel also apologised "If staff felt there were PPA shortages"
and another Government official accused NHS staff of wasting PPE (no link)

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (13 Apr 2020 5.52pm)

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 13 Apr 20 5.58pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That's why most of them won't have any additional expense involved so won't be claiming, or if any tried would be refused.

The froth that some people work themselves into over nothing is always amusing to witness but right now it's really disappointing. We are all in this together and from what I see our MPs, of all parties, are doing their best in very difficult circumstances to stay calm, offer reassurance and support the government's efforts.

As you know I have been no great admirer of the politics and political maneuvering of the current Tory Party, However I am very supportive of the way they are handling this and particularly of Boris Johnson who has done his damnedest to be a real leader at a time of national crisis. His heartfelt tribute to the care he received really touched me. I wish him well.

The time for hindsight and learning lessons comes later. Right now we need to get behind our government and do what they are requiring of us. No questions. Just do it. Complaining about civil liberties being eroded at this time is irresponsible as it could encourage those who seek to ignore the needs of others by offering them excuses. Analysing the impact on our economic futures is for tomorrow, when we know when tomorrow might be. No government could turn it's back on this kind of emergency because of the possibility that the economic future might in the end cause more harm than if the emergency was ignored. The emergency is real and it's now. Economic futures are forecasts of tomorrows.

Whether they claim or not isn’t the issue. It’s the fact that the facility is already in place if they do.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 13 Apr 20 6.06pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Ongoing treatments changed/deferred

[Link]

PPE shortage stories

[Link]

[Link]

[Link]

Priti Patel also apologised "If staff felt there were PPA shortages"
and another Government official accused NHS staff of wasting PPE (no link)

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (13 Apr 2020 5.52pm)

In normal times 20 percent of the whole national budget is spent on healthcare.....When you double that with pensions it's 40 percent....and we haven't even touched welfare yet.

In comparison we spend less than 2 percent on military. It can hardly be said that healthcare isn't a priority.

The government has spent huge amounts, vast amounts on tackling this and because it's not perfect....you know, because it's never going to be....You get this.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Apr 2020 6.08pm)

 


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