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  SW19 CPFC  Addiscombe West 18 Oct 19 3.50pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
You have revealed the reason why so many of us voted to leave. It wasn't anything to do with editorials in the mainstream media but because we have all dumbed down and now get our news feeds from Facebook and Twitter Whatever next Obviously the effect of social media on the referendum vote is being significantly overstated here, and has been more recently re. the Cambridge Analytica scandal. But from your point it seems as though you seem to think it has little or no effect at all. It has a massive and growing effect as a key, no filter propaganda or misinformation tool of influence, on any topic. An effect that will only increase as people increasingly turn to bitesize, high-level, sensationalist cuts of information and away from (occasionally) paywall based, high quality medium to long read information. Did this have an influence on leave and remain voters in the referendum? Yes. Did it have a decisive influence on either group? Unlikely. Would it have more influence now if a referendum were held again due to increased adoption? Most likely. Just look at the dross DANGERMOUSE posts. That's proof enough. All the average joe reads now is slogan based news through their social feeds. It's genius, in a way. No detailed reading, no cross-checking or balanced comparison, just lap up the repost without validation and then shout about it until hoarse while downing 5 pints of Carling down the local pub. Then stumble back, stuffing their faces with endangered North Sea Cod and chips, because it's cheap, innit, wipe the grease off their sweaty faces onto their Asda jumper and collapse into bed, with one final methane tinged wheeze. What a life.
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| DANGERCLOSE London 18 Oct 19 3.51pm |
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The remoaners have spent over 3 years stating that compromise is needed to satisfy the 48% as their feelings should be considered yet I have seen no evidence of compromise from them towards us. They are under the delusion that they are the better educated yet cannot understand the concept of indoctrination.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Oct 19 3.52pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
Must be those pesky Ruskies behind the increasing federalism of the Union. There's always been a significant minority opposed to the EU. Maybe 20% to 25% of us? Not though 52%. It was that difference that was subjected to the influence. The Eurosceptics, who include many posting here, were always going to vote to leave.
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Teddy Eagle  18 Oct 19 4.01pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Obviously the effect of social media on the referendum vote is being significantly overstated here, and has been more recently re. the Cambridge Analytica scandal. But from your point it seems as though you seem to think it has little or no effect at all. It has a massive and growing effect as a key, no filter propaganda or misinformation tool of influence, on any topic. An effect that will only increase as people increasingly turn to bitesize, high-level, sensationalist cuts of information and away from (occasionally) paywall based, high quality medium to long read information. Did this have an influence on leave and remain voters in the referendum? Yes. Did it have a decisive influence on either group? Unlikely. Would it have more influence now if a referendum were held again due to increased adoption? Most likely. Just look at the dross DANGERMOUSE posts. That's proof enough. All the average joe reads now is slogan based news through their social feeds. It's genius, in a way. No detailed reading, no cross-checking or balanced comparison, just lap up the repost without validation and then shout about it until hoarse while downing 5 pints of Carling down the local pub. Then stumble back, stuffing their faces with endangered North Sea Cod and chips, because it's cheap, innit, wipe the grease off their sweaty faces onto their Asda jumper and collapse into bed, with one final methane tinged wheeze. What a life. Anyone who stumbles after 5 pints of Carling has got enough problems to get on with.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 18 Oct 19 4.04pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There's always been a significant minority opposed to the EU. Maybe 20% to 25% of us? Not though 52%. It was that difference that was subjected to the influence. The Eurosceptics, who include many posting here, were always going to vote to leave. Utter drivel. The entire visual media is pro Euro and they have the biggest influence. The idea that we voted Leave because of indoctrination is so ludicrous that it barely deserves a response. Bonkers.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 18 Oct 19 4.26pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Anyone who stumbles after 5 pints of Carling has got enough problems to get on with. Haha. Fair point.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 18 Oct 19 4.28pm |
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Extension request all but guaranteed. Letwin amendment likely to postpone vote on deal tomorrow... Should be interesting to see if Cummings has a legal ace up his sleeve
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| Badger11 Beckenham 18 Oct 19 5.02pm |
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Deputy Leader of the Lib Dems MEPs car crash interview. I am not sure what annoys me more, her Project fear writ large or that she doesn't have a clue what she is talking about. She is another professional MP with no real life job experience mouthing the platitudes that her party have told he to say. She's no David Steele.
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| Midlands Eagle 18 Oct 19 5.13pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There's always been a significant minority opposed to the EU. Maybe 20% to 25% of us? Not though 52%. It was that difference that was subjected to the influence. The Eurosceptics, who include many posting here, were always going to vote to leave. More Wissy tripe. I doubt whether most of us gave two thoughts to the EU prior to the referendum and it was only when we were asked to decide whether to stay in or leave did we start to think about it. Personally I have no interest in social media other than seeing what a small group of my friends and family are up to and take the view that so called influencers are just a bunch of idle buggers that don't want to get a proper job and are certainly not people to take any notice of
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| Midlands Eagle 18 Oct 19 5.17pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Obviously the effect of social media on the referendum vote is being significantly overstated here, and has been more recently re. the Cambridge Analytica scandal. But from your point it seems as though you seem to think it has little or no effect at all. It has a massive and growing effect as a key, no filter propaganda or misinformation tool of influence, on any topic. An effect that will only increase as people increasingly turn to bitesize, high-level, sensationalist cuts of information and away from (occasionally) paywall based, high quality medium to long read information. Did this have an influence on leave and remain voters in the referendum? Yes. Did it have a decisive influence on either group? Unlikely. Would it have more influence now if a referendum were held again due to increased adoption? Most likely. Just look at the dross DANGERMOUSE posts. That's proof enough. All the average joe reads now is slogan based news through their social feeds. It's genius, in a way. No detailed reading, no cross-checking or balanced comparison, just lap up the repost without validation and then shout about it until hoarse while downing 5 pints of Carling down the local pub. Then stumble back, stuffing their faces with endangered North Sea Cod and chips, because it's cheap, innit, wipe the grease off their sweaty faces onto their Asda jumper and collapse into bed, with one final methane tinged wheeze. What a life. I find your post quite insulting as I wouldn't wear anything from Asda even if I was desperate and I certainly don't drink lager as it's a girl's drink
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cryrst  The garden of England 18 Oct 19 5.38pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's the way it's being sold as apparently 95% of the text remains unchanged. However, the change to the way regulatory alignment is to be handled seems to have massive implications to me which demand very careful scrutiny before it is signed off as afterwards will be too late. The revised way of handling NI not so. They change the way the issue is to be handled there but not the fact that it will be handled. What that does though, as any kind of Brexit does so far as I can determine, is to hasten the day when the UK falls apart. I heard some "loyalist" politicians this week saying that a united Ireland within the EU might actually be a good thing. The DUP appear to be becoming increasingly isolated. With Scotland now looking to me like a lost cause, if we Brexit, how will England and Wales fare alone. Indeed, how long will it be England AND Wales? If I am right then we will have left one Union and broken up another by this. I wonder if that is actually what those who voted to leave really wanted. The last line is desperate.
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| Teddy Eagle 18 Oct 19 5.54pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I find your post quite insulting as I wouldn't wear anything from Asda even if I was desperate and I certainly don't drink lager as it's a girl's drink Stella has even got a girl’s name but it’s twisted me up a few times!
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