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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 03 Jan 24 12.13pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Any opinion before something happens is guesswork. Kind of limits any discussion. That all depends on who is expressing the opinion and whether their knowledge, experience and motivations are both relevant and trustworthy. I have witnessed plenty of discussions involving people who think they know a lot about everything which actually contain very little of value to anyone other than themselves. Should they be limited? Not it keeps them occupied and away from causing harm. Should they inform policymakers? Not in a million years.
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Teddy Eagle  03 Jan 24 12.22pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That all depends on who is expressing the opinion and whether their knowledge, experience and motivations are both relevant and trustworthy. I have witnessed plenty of discussions involving people who think they know a lot about everything which actually contain very little of value to anyone other than themselves. Should they be limited? Not it keeps them occupied and away from causing harm. Should they inform policymakers? Not in a million years. But why does it matter? Surely abiding by the guidelines of lockdown was the issue rather than disagreeing with them afterwards. That's more than Downing Street staff and several ministers managed.
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 georgenorman 03 Jan 24 1.33pm |
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The lockdowns probably caused more deaths than they saved with cancers and other fatal conditions going undiagnosed and untreated. Along with that the economy was wrecked, businesses ruined and peoples lives in general damaged - but of course Wisbelch will continue to belch his guff.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Jan 24 4.42pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
But why does it matter? Surely abiding by the guidelines of lockdown was the issue rather than disagreeing with them afterwards. That's more than Downing Street staff and several ministers managed. True. So why are others still behaving like playground attention seekers rather than concentrating on learning the actual lessons and working hard to help our recovery? Everyone can and should be doing something.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Jan 24 4.46pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
The lockdowns probably caused more deaths than they saved with cancers and other fatal conditions going undiagnosed and untreated. Along with that the economy was wrecked, businesses ruined and peoples lives in general damaged - but of course Wisbelch will continue to belch his guff. Probably? There is no evidence at all for such an assertion other than prejudice. In fact the reverse is true. Those responsible considered the options and decided that to lockdown was the least bad. I suspect they are better qualified than you in such matters.
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| georgenorman 03 Jan 24 4.52pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Probably? There is no evidence at all for such an assertion other than prejudice. In fact the reverse is true. Those responsible considered the options and decided that to lockdown was the least bad. I suspect they are better qualified than you in such matters. There is no evidence for your assertion that my assertion is definitely untrue.
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| Teddy Eagle 03 Jan 24 5.17pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
True. So why are others still behaving like playground attention seekers rather than concentrating on learning the actual lessons and working hard to help our recovery? Everyone can and should be doing something. Because if they obeyed the rules at the time they're angry that those who imposed them didn't see the need to abide by them. Not being allowed to visit sick parents and seeing their business and children's education suffering while others are having parties, driving all over the country or groping their girlfriend is bound to be annoying.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Jan 24 8.29pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
There is no evidence for your assertion that my assertion is definitely untrue. There is no evidence that a blue spaghetti flying monster doesn’t exist as it requires the proof of a negative. It is though so extremely unlikely as to be disregarded. Your assertion is not so completely unlikely but given the circumstances can still be dismissed on the balance of probabilities.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Jan 24 8.30pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Because if they obeyed the rules at the time they're angry that those who imposed them didn't see the need to abide by them. Not being allowed to visit sick parents and seeing their business and children's education suffering while others are having parties, driving all over the country or groping their girlfriend is bound to be annoying. So am I and every other law abiding citizen! Has absolutely nothing to do with the issue though.
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| Teddy Eagle 03 Jan 24 8.36pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
So am I and every other law abiding citizen! Has absolutely nothing to do with the issue though. Doesn't it? Those who impose the rules then ignore them? In the unlikely event of another lockdown why shouldn't everyone just think - those in charge didn't take the last one seriously so why should we?
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| georgenorman 03 Jan 24 9.01pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There is no evidence that a blue spaghetti flying monster doesn’t exist as it requires the proof of a negative. It is though so extremely unlikely as to be disregarded. Your assertion is not so completely unlikely but given the circumstances can still be dismissed on the balance of probabilities. Macmillan Cancer Support analysis of NHS figures show that cancer diagnoses fell by 33% during the lockdowns. It is ridiculous for you to disregard this - just as it is to disregard a landlord with your first name, in your age bracket, living in your area, fined and incurring costs of over £10,000 for not maintaining the gas appliances in their properties.
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cryrst  The garden of England 03 Jan 24 9.06pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Macmillan Cancer Support analysis of NHS figures show that cancer diagnoses fell by 33% during the lockdowns. It is ridiculous for you to disregard this - just as it is to disregard a landlord with your first name, in your age bracket, living in your area, fined and incurring costs of over £10,000 for not maintaining the gas appliances in their properties. Whoosh !
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