I tend to always agree with most of what you say, but think you are wrong on this.

Our MPs are not supposed to "reflect" the views of their constituents. They are representatives and not delegates.

Their job is to decide, in their collective wisdom and with the benefit of time and the opportunity to study and listen to experts, what is in our best interests.

The Tory party members are no better off than the rest of us in that regard. Indeed, coming from a small group with similar outlooks, they are extremely biased in their approach.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Seems to be a lot of debate between whether an 'individual' or 'Party' is voted in to power on here as well as other factors now such as whether or not MP's are representatives or delegates.

All much of a muchness really and TBH I think it is a combination of factors that should play into consideration here, not just 'one or t'other'.

For me it all just plays out into the same conclusion as far as I'm concerned in that whilst democratic processes are of precious necessity to be cherished there is an ultimate floor. I have had the privilege of meeting many people in life whom I would consider far more intelligent than myself (not hard) as well as just about everybody I meet knowing something I do not in one sphere or another. Equally, however, I feel I have met many people who are either thick as excrement or those who are extremely selfish, disastrously there are plenty who fall into both brackets.

I have abstained from many a vote where I have either had no confidence in the options available or no confidence in myself for making an objective, well-informed decision. Unfortunately I do not think this mantra applies to many.

What we have witnessed recently and currently for me stinks of a lack of due process for ensuring competency in the running of government and a complete abandonment or flouncing of democratic principles. So either way we seem doomed if we do or don't. The debate over these processes whilst of course legitimate just seems like a massive waste of time when staring such gloomy scenarios in the face.

I long for the day when I see either a party or individual who I truly believe will deliver both what is best for us as individuals and for the country holistically. Right now, and more recently, I have not seen one 'in the running' who I'd identify as fit for a range of things from being in my pub quiz team to looking after my children. This has led me to the conclusion that whatever or whoever we have running Gov. in the near future will once again be in power through default as opposed to ringing endorsement and belief. Having seen a power shift that has gone between two parties for decades now I don't see where the democratic, logical or belief in meritocracy arises from. What we need now is competency, efficiency and effectiveness. Not ideological, minutia and loyalty based debate.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

There was clearly never a genuine attempt at this. Once Cummings was ejected due to Johnson being c***-struck, then it was as good as stymied. The biggest mistake was doing any kind of 'deal' with the EU. Should have been lots of smaller ones and just let the relationship evolve.

Throw in Covid and it is obvious that a real Brexit has never been given a chance.

The reality is that the UK is now effectively being run by the likes of Hunt. A full-on Remainer.

We won the battle but suspect we are going to lose the peace. Except there is not going to be any peace. This does not go-away.

English nationalism is our own chance of every truly being an independent nation. With a new political movement built around that. And that is going to be messy. But so be it. Better a mess then living in servility.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Of course but Biden was being praised for not being a pathological liar, a pretty low bar you'd think, when he's no more truthful than the rest of them.

Excellent, and I really enjoyed how he tucked in to a whopping ice cream while putting down the Truss trickle-down economic policy.

'Anyway it's up to Great Britain'.

An interesting point, isn't it? Is malicious lying preferable to incompetence in a politician?