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matt_himself Flag Matataland 28 Mar 15 9.14am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote Kermit8 at 28 Mar 2015 8.48am

I remember the Gurkhas playing the race card ganging up and upsetting the government demanding an increase on their paltry ethnic minority based pensions. How very dare they.


I agree with you. The manner in which the Gurkhas were treated was disgusting.

 

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crystal balls Flag The Garden of Earthly Delights 28 Mar 15 9.58am Send a Private Message to crystal balls Add crystal balls as a friend

Quote matt_himself at 28 Mar 2015 8.15am

Quote crystal balls at 28 Mar 2015 5.27am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 27 Mar 2015 7.32pm

Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 7.16pm

Quote imbored at 27 Mar 2015 6.35pm

Farage will revel in taking part and will outperform everyone I think.

Somebody on here mentioned that Cameron kept mentioning the economy. All you will get from Farage is the EU and immigration.What are their policies on the economy, NHS,Education, Law and Order etc etc ? Will they stand up to intense scrutiny ? Will Farage be their lone spokesman in the election campaign or will they dare to unleash some of the others other than their current two MPs Carswell and Reckless? Fascinating !

Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 7.17pm)

I'm sure Farage will do just fine speaking about the economy. After all, being a former stockbroker he does have some first-hand experience on the matter as opposed to the others who are just career politicians.

Farage wasn't a "stockbroker" (though his father was), he was a commodities trader. This basically involves betting on the future prices of various commodities; he tended to specialise in metals. Trading involves very much a gambler's mindset, and Farage apparently made some good bets and some bad ones, making and losing large sums for his employers.

Working as a commodities trader confers no first-hand, second hand or even third hand experience of running a nations economy.

The gambler's instinct has continued right up to the current election campaign. Farage has pledged that if he doesn't get elected as an MP in May he will resign as UKIP leader. He's put all his chips on red, and if black comes up he'll be gone, and so will UKIP.

Wishful thinking Mr Balls.

When Nige steps to one side, Douglas Carswell will lead UKiP. Carswell would be an excellent leader who would offer natural progression from Nige.

You obviously like to get a boner from thinking that UKIP will all be over soon. It won't. Politics is only going to get more fragmented over the next few years and parties like UKiP and, unfortunately, the Greens, will be around for a while.


Carswell;

[Link]

Fawlty;

[Link]

I believe he can do the silly walk as well!

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 28 Mar 15 10.08am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote crystal balls at 28 Mar 2015 9.58am

Quote matt_himself at 28 Mar 2015 8.15am

Quote crystal balls at 28 Mar 2015 5.27am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 27 Mar 2015 7.32pm

Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 7.16pm

Quote imbored at 27 Mar 2015 6.35pm

Farage will revel in taking part and will outperform everyone I think.

Somebody on here mentioned that Cameron kept mentioning the economy. All you will get from Farage is the EU and immigration.What are their policies on the economy, NHS,Education, Law and Order etc etc ? Will they stand up to intense scrutiny ? Will Farage be their lone spokesman in the election campaign or will they dare to unleash some of the others other than their current two MPs Carswell and Reckless? Fascinating !

Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 7.17pm)

I'm sure Farage will do just fine speaking about the economy. After all, being a former stockbroker he does have some first-hand experience on the matter as opposed to the others who are just career politicians.

Farage wasn't a "stockbroker" (though his father was), he was a commodities trader. This basically involves betting on the future prices of various commodities; he tended to specialise in metals. Trading involves very much a gambler's mindset, and Farage apparently made some good bets and some bad ones, making and losing large sums for his employers.

Working as a commodities trader confers no first-hand, second hand or even third hand experience of running a nations economy.

The gambler's instinct has continued right up to the current election campaign. Farage has pledged that if he doesn't get elected as an MP in May he will resign as UKIP leader. He's put all his chips on red, and if black comes up he'll be gone, and so will UKIP.

Wishful thinking Mr Balls.

When Nige steps to one side, Douglas Carswell will lead UKiP. Carswell would be an excellent leader who would offer natural progression from Nige.

You obviously like to get a boner from thinking that UKIP will all be over soon. It won't. Politics is only going to get more fragmented over the next few years and parties like UKiP and, unfortunately, the Greens, will be around for a while.


Carswell;

[Link]

Fawlty;

[Link]

I believe he can do the silly walk as well!

Edited by crystal balls (28 Mar 2015 10.00am)

Edited by crystal balls (28 Mar 2015 10.02am)


Cutting satire there, Balls.

Tell me, who will you vote for?

 

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 28 Mar 15 10.14am

Quote matt_himself at 28 Mar 2015 10.08am

Quote crystal balls at 28 Mar 2015 9.58am

Quote matt_himself at 28 Mar 2015 8.15am

Quote crystal balls at 28 Mar 2015 5.27am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 27 Mar 2015 7.32pm

Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 7.16pm

Quote imbored at 27 Mar 2015 6.35pm

Farage will revel in taking part and will outperform everyone I think.

Somebody on here mentioned that Cameron kept mentioning the economy. All you will get from Farage is the EU and immigration.What are their policies on the economy, NHS,Education, Law and Order etc etc ? Will they stand up to intense scrutiny ? Will Farage be their lone spokesman in the election campaign or will they dare to unleash some of the others other than their current two MPs Carswell and Reckless? Fascinating !

Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 7.17pm)

I'm sure Farage will do just fine speaking about the economy. After all, being a former stockbroker he does have some first-hand experience on the matter as opposed to the others who are just career politicians.

Farage wasn't a "stockbroker" (though his father was), he was a commodities trader. This basically involves betting on the future prices of various commodities; he tended to specialise in metals. Trading involves very much a gambler's mindset, and Farage apparently made some good bets and some bad ones, making and losing large sums for his employers.

Working as a commodities trader confers no first-hand, second hand or even third hand experience of running a nations economy.

The gambler's instinct has continued right up to the current election campaign. Farage has pledged that if he doesn't get elected as an MP in May he will resign as UKIP leader. He's put all his chips on red, and if black comes up he'll be gone, and so will UKIP.

Wishful thinking Mr Balls.

When Nige steps to one side, Douglas Carswell will lead UKiP. Carswell would be an excellent leader who would offer natural progression from Nige.

You obviously like to get a boner from thinking that UKIP will all be over soon. It won't. Politics is only going to get more fragmented over the next few years and parties like UKiP and, unfortunately, the Greens, will be around for a while.


Carswell;

[Link]

Fawlty;

[Link]

I believe he can do the silly walk as well!

Edited by crystal balls (28 Mar 2015 10.00am)

Edited by crystal balls (28 Mar 2015 10.02am)


Cutting satire there, Balls.

Tell me, who will you vote for?


Like a lot of people on here Matt, many posters are keen to knock ukip but even keener to hide their own alliances as they don’t wish for their own parties to be ridiculed or questioned as they themselves are doing. Most when asked who they will vote for just give some vague answer about still being undecided. There really are some utter bell ends on here.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Mar 15 10.25am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 28 Mar 2015 10.14am

Like a lot of people on here Matt, many posters are keen to knock ukip but even keener to hide their own alliances as they don’t wish for their own parties to be ridiculed or questioned as they themselves are doing. Most when asked who they will vote for just give some vague answer about still being undecided. There really are some utter bell ends on here.

If they say they are "Undecided" maybe this is not vague but a categoric and honest assertion of their position.
You cannot accuse me of being "vague" as my allegiance has been well documented on here !


Edited by Willo (28 Mar 2015 10.26am)

 
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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 28 Mar 15 10.35am

Quote Willo at 28 Mar 2015 10.25am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 28 Mar 2015 10.14am

Like a lot of people on here Matt, many posters are keen to knock ukip but even keener to hide their own alliances as they don’t wish for their own parties to be ridiculed or questioned as they themselves are doing. Most when asked who they will vote for just give some vague answer about still being undecided. There really are some utter bell ends on here.

If they say they are "Undecided" maybe this is not vague but a categoric and honest assertion of their position.
You cannot accuse me of being "vague" as my allegiance has been well documented on here !


Edited by Willo (28 Mar 2015 10.26am)


Maybe, and maybe not. Maybe they are just as I say, being vague. After all, it’s very easy to knock something whilst not offering an alternative. Sort of the Russell Brand effect, blame people/parties/everyone but not offer any viable solutions. Many people I have asked such as Nick Gusset have conveniently avoided the question of who they vote for which strikes me as odd, as they appear to be such political experts! I don’t care who you or anyone votes for, but please have the balls to stand up and say so.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Mar 15 10.41am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 28 Mar 2015 10.35am


Maybe, and maybe not. Maybe they are just as I say, being vague. After all, it’s very easy to knock something whilst not offering an alternative. Sort of the Russell Brand effect, blame people/parties/everyone but not offer any viable solutions. Many people I have asked such as Nick Gusset have conveniently avoided the question of who they vote for which strikes me as odd, as they appear to be such political experts! I don’t care who you or anyone votes for, but please have the balls to stand up and say so.

Tom

I understand what you are saying.

That said, who a person votes for is a personal and private matter and they are under no obligation to make such details available to all and sundry.At the end of the day it is a "Secret ballot" !

When I knock on doors to ascertain voting intentions I don't take umbrage if people are "Vague" as I fully accept that they wish to keep this information to themselves.

 
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Hoof Hearted 28 Mar 15 10.43am

Quote EricYoung'sSweatBand at 28 Mar 2015 8.48am

I'm not back peddling I've been quite clear.

To quote you actually

"Ethnic minorities play the race card constantly for self interest purposes"

You've managed to show me one article where one person played the race card in 2011. Forgive me for not being convinced that 'ethnic minorities' 'constantly' play the race card.

Showing one person playing the race card is no more evidence that ethnic minorities play the race card than me calling white people racists and posting a link of Nick Griffin being racist

It's a simple question and not a pedantic one so I don't know why you're struggling with it. Did you mean that occasionally one or two people who are from ethnic minorities may play the race card or did you mean what you said?


You are coming across as a pedant to me....

 
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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Mar 15 10.49am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 28 Mar 2015 10.35am

Quote Willo at 28 Mar 2015 10.25am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 28 Mar 2015 10.14am

Like a lot of people on here Matt, many posters are keen to knock ukip but even keener to hide their own alliances as they don’t wish for their own parties to be ridiculed or questioned as they themselves are doing. Most when asked who they will vote for just give some vague answer about still being undecided. There really are some utter bell ends on here.

If they say they are "Undecided" maybe this is not vague but a categoric and honest assertion of their position.
You cannot accuse me of being "vague" as my allegiance has been well documented on here !


Edited by Willo (28 Mar 2015 10.26am)


Maybe, and maybe not. Maybe they are just as I say, being vague. After all, it’s very easy to knock something whilst not offering an alternative. Sort of the Russell Brand effect, blame people/parties/everyone but not offer any viable solutions. Many people I have asked such as Nick Gusset have conveniently avoided the question of who they vote for which strikes me as odd, as they appear to be such political experts! I don’t care who you or anyone votes for, but please have the balls to stand up and say so.

Green.

 
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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 28 Mar 15 10.52am

Quote Willo at 28 Mar 2015 10.41am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 28 Mar 2015 10.35am


Maybe, and maybe not. Maybe they are just as I say, being vague. After all, it’s very easy to knock something whilst not offering an alternative. Sort of the Russell Brand effect, blame people/parties/everyone but not offer any viable solutions. Many people I have asked such as Nick Gusset have conveniently avoided the question of who they vote for which strikes me as odd, as they appear to be such political experts! I don’t care who you or anyone votes for, but please have the balls to stand up and say so.

Tom

I understand what you are saying.

That said, who a person votes for is a personal and private matter and they are under no obligation to make such details available to all and sundry.At the end of the day it is a "Secret ballot" !

When I knock on doors to ascertain voting intentions I don't take umbrage if people are "Vague" as I fully accept that they wish to keep this information to themselves.


Willo, I agree with what you say about voting being a private matter and have no problem with you. I suppose what I do not understand though is if someone wishes to comment (and often strongly) on a political forum then they (in my mind) are forgoing the right for their views to remain private. Commenting/knocking other parties but hiding behind their 'rights to privacy' to me just smacks of hypocrisy and shows a complete lack of guts. I find it very difficult to take such people seriously

 

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 28 Mar 15 10.54am

Quote nickgusset at 28 Mar 2015 10.49am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 28 Mar 2015 10.35am

Quote Willo at 28 Mar 2015 10.25am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 28 Mar 2015 10.14am

Like a lot of people on here Matt, many posters are keen to knock ukip but even keener to hide their own alliances as they don’t wish for their own parties to be ridiculed or questioned as they themselves are doing. Most when asked who they will vote for just give some vague answer about still being undecided. There really are some utter bell ends on here.

If they say they are "Undecided" maybe this is not vague but a categoric and honest assertion of their position.
You cannot accuse me of being "vague" as my allegiance has been well documented on here !


Edited by Willo (28 Mar 2015 10.26am)


Maybe, and maybe not. Maybe they are just as I say, being vague. After all, it’s very easy to knock something whilst not offering an alternative. Sort of the Russell Brand effect, blame people/parties/everyone but not offer any viable solutions. Many people I have asked such as Nick Gusset have conveniently avoided the question of who they vote for which strikes me as odd, as they appear to be such political experts! I don’t care who you or anyone votes for, but please have the balls to stand up and say so.

Green.

Oh you have made your mind up now - well done

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Mar 15 10.56am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 28 Mar 2015 10.54am

Quote nickgusset at 28 Mar 2015 10.49am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 28 Mar 2015 10.35am

Quote Willo at 28 Mar 2015 10.25am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 28 Mar 2015 10.14am

Like a lot of people on here Matt, many posters are keen to knock ukip but even keener to hide their own alliances as they don’t wish for their own parties to be ridiculed or questioned as they themselves are doing. Most when asked who they will vote for just give some vague answer about still being undecided. There really are some utter bell ends on here.

If they say they are "Undecided" maybe this is not vague but a categoric and honest assertion of their position.
You cannot accuse me of being "vague" as my allegiance has been well documented on here !


Edited by Willo (28 Mar 2015 10.26am)


Maybe, and maybe not. Maybe they are just as I say, being vague. After all, it’s very easy to knock something whilst not offering an alternative. Sort of the Russell Brand effect, blame people/parties/everyone but not offer any viable solutions. Many people I have asked such as Nick Gusset have conveniently avoided the question of who they vote for which strikes me as odd, as they appear to be such political experts! I don’t care who you or anyone votes for, but please have the balls to stand up and say so.

Green.

Oh you have made your mind up now - well done


No, I just thought I'd bring the lead singer of Scritti Politti into the debate.

 
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