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jcreedy 08 Jun 24 5.46pm
Originally posted by cryrst War is harsh ! Whether it not this is a war is up for some pretty serious debate. It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. - John Bostock (Nov 2007)
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08 Jun 24 5.46pm

Originally posted by cryrst

War is harsh !

Whether it not this is a war is up for some pretty serious debate.

It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.

- John Bostock (Nov 2007)

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steeleye20 Croydon 20 Jun 24 4.18pm
Hamas claims psychological and strategic intellectual defeat of Israel after IDF spokesperson Daniel Hagari, said that Hamas is an idea rooted in the hearts of the people and it can’t be eliminated. Hagari reportedly said that destroying Hamas or making it disappear is simply throwing sand in the eyes of the public.
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Croydon 20 Jun 24 4.18pm

Hamas claims psychological and strategic intellectual defeat of Israel after IDF spokesperson Daniel Hagari, said that Hamas is an idea rooted in the hearts of the people and it can’t be eliminated.

Hagari reportedly said that destroying Hamas or making it disappear is simply throwing sand in the eyes of the public.

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cryrst The garden of England 21 Jun 24 5.39am
Originally posted by steeleye20 Hamas claims psychological and strategic intellectual defeat of Israel after IDF spokesperson Daniel Hagari, said that Hamas is an idea rooted in the hearts of the people and it can’t be eliminated. Hagari reportedly said that destroying Hamas or making it disappear is simply throwing sand in the eyes of the public. For all radical and even semi moderate Muslims the idea came from a book !
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The garden of England 21 Jun 24 5.39am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Hagari reportedly said that destroying Hamas or making it disappear is simply throwing sand in the eyes of the public.

For all radical and even semi moderate Muslims the idea came from a book !

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 23 Jun 24 2.49pm
Israel and Hezbollah war might be looking an option, once Palestine areas have been flattened and all Palestinians ejected. I just wonder if either of them would have the appetite after decades of border skirmishes. That would perpetuate Western arms sales to Israel. (not that they can really pay for them, of course) I disengage, I turn the page.
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Israel and Hezbollah war might be looking an option, once Palestine areas have been flattened and all Palestinians ejected.
I just wonder if either of them would have the appetite after decades of border skirmishes.
That would perpetuate Western arms sales to Israel. (not that they can really pay for them, of course)

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Stirlingsays 23 Jun 24 4.04pm
It never ceases to amaze me just how successfully media can fool people with concepts that have been proven incorrect time and time again. Of course you can't eliminate Hamas using the western mindset.....To do so you'd have to do two things....and for god's sake it's been known since Alexander's time. You either eliminate the people themselves or you take over the society, kill all the leaders, take the children away from the parents and indoctrinate them. None of this is acceptable to modern western minds. Besides it would probably create global problems...and I wouldn't blame them for the resentment. So if you're going to live within the western frame, no you can't eliminate Hamas. But hell....Hamas would sure eliminate you. The whole problem feeds back into the injustice of 1948.....There's no getting round that. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Jun 24 4.04pm

It never ceases to amaze me just how successfully media can fool people with concepts that have been proven incorrect time and time again.

Of course you can't eliminate Hamas using the western mindset.....To do so you'd have to do two things....and for god's sake it's been known since Alexander's time.

You either eliminate the people themselves or you take over the society, kill all the leaders, take the children away from the parents and indoctrinate them.

None of this is acceptable to modern western minds. Besides it would probably create global problems...and I wouldn't blame them for the resentment.

So if you're going to live within the western frame, no you can't eliminate Hamas.

But hell....Hamas would sure eliminate you.

The whole problem feeds back into the injustice of 1948.....There's no getting round that.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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silvertop Portishead 23 Jun 24 4.39pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays It never ceases to amaze me just how successfully media can fool people with concepts that have been proven incorrect time and time again. Of course you can't eliminate Hamas using the western mindset.....To do so you'd have to do two things....and for god's sake it's been known since Alexander's time. You either eliminate the people themselves or you take over the society, kill all the leaders, take the children away from the parents and indoctrinate them. None of this is acceptable to modern western minds. Besides it would probably create global problems...and I wouldn't blame them for the resentment. So if you're going to live within the western frame, no you can't eliminate Hamas. But hell....Hamas would sure eliminate you. The whole problem feeds back into the injustice of 1948.....There's no getting round that. ...which in turn was fed by post holocaust guilt and assisted by powerful US Jews/right wing Christians post war British weakness
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It never ceases to amaze me just how successfully media can fool people with concepts that have been proven incorrect time and time again.

Of course you can't eliminate Hamas using the western mindset.....To do so you'd have to do two things....and for god's sake it's been known since Alexander's time.

You either eliminate the people themselves or you take over the society, kill all the leaders, take the children away from the parents and indoctrinate them.

None of this is acceptable to modern western minds. Besides it would probably create global problems...and I wouldn't blame them for the resentment.

So if you're going to live within the western frame, no you can't eliminate Hamas.

But hell....Hamas would sure eliminate you.

The whole problem feeds back into the injustice of 1948.....There's no getting round that.

...which in turn was fed by post holocaust guilt and assisted by powerful US Jews/right wing Christians post war British weakness

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 23 Jun 24 4.41pm
Indeed Stirling, my comment was slightly tongue-in-cheek. Afer all the successes that the two Gulf Wars brought, and the invasion of Afghanistan. Then we let all the Western haters into the Western world via unchecked immigration and refugee status. i feel Israel will not kill any concept of Jew-hating by their actions. They are just bringing the Israel-haters closer to their borders. I disengage, I turn the page.
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Indeed Stirling, my comment was slightly tongue-in-cheek. Afer all the successes that the two Gulf Wars brought, and the invasion of Afghanistan.
Then we let all the Western haters into the Western world via unchecked immigration and refugee status.
i feel Israel will not kill any concept of Jew-hating by their actions.
They are just bringing the Israel-haters closer to their borders.

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 06 Jul 24 10.23am
And the Israeli stealing of Palestinian land continues unabated. Because killing and displacing all the Palestinians and stealing their land, was always the Final Solution. "Palestinian officials have condemned a dramatic new settlement drive by Israel in the occupied West Bank which includes retroactively authorising three outposts. The move is set to further stoke tensions in the territory which has seen a surge in violence since the war in Gaza began on 7 October. Palestinians claim the West Bank as part of their hoped-for future state. Settlements are widely seen as illegal under international law although Israel disagrees." (BBC website) I disengage, I turn the page.
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And the Israeli stealing of Palestinian land continues unabated.
Because killing and displacing all the Palestinians and stealing their land, was always the Final Solution.

"Palestinian officials have condemned a dramatic new settlement drive by Israel in the occupied West Bank which includes retroactively authorising three outposts.

The move is set to further stoke tensions in the territory which has seen a surge in violence since the war in Gaza began on 7 October.

Palestinians claim the West Bank as part of their hoped-for future state. Settlements are widely seen as illegal under international law although Israel disagrees." (BBC website)

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 06 Jul 24 6.20pm
ooops "At least 15 people have been killed in an air strike on a school in the Gaza Strip, Palestinian officials have said. Dozens more have been injured in the attack on the building which was sheltering displaced people at Nuseirat refugee camp in central Gaza, according to the Hamas-run health ministry." (BBC website) I disengage, I turn the page.
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"At least 15 people have been killed in an air strike on a school in the Gaza Strip, Palestinian officials have said.

Dozens more have been injured in the attack on the building which was sheltering displaced people at Nuseirat refugee camp in central Gaza, according to the Hamas-run health ministry." (BBC website)

I disengage, I turn the page.

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cryrst The garden of England 06 Jul 24 6.57pm
Yup and I feel there were more than displaced people in there. Who reported it again ?
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Yup and I feel there were more than displaced people in there. Who reported it again ?

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cryrst The garden of England 09 Jul 24 8.44pm
[Link] Hamas is terrorist
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Hamas is terrorist

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 10 Jul 24 7.55am
The difference in reaction from our politicians when Russia air strike Ukraine is very interesting to note; Kier Starmer: “Attacking innocent children. The most depraved of actions. We stand with Ukraine against Russian aggression - our support won’t falter.”
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The difference in reaction from our politicians when Russia air strike Ukraine is very interesting to note;

Kier Starmer:

“Attacking innocent children. The most depraved of actions.

We stand with Ukraine against Russian aggression - our support won’t falter.”

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