The truth has always mattered. The problem for the past 4 years that on one side of the argument the truth has been regarded as whatever Trump was thinking at that moment.

So what is it that you believe the Democrats have been sowing?

Because I only see a lot of patience, frustration and disbelief at the behaviour not only of Trump and his team but on the bulk of the GOP Senators who have found themselves trapped by, and in hock to, Trump's control over their voting base.

The Democrats knew that removing him politically now was the likely best, and probably only, option but that they had a constitutional duty to impeach. That the GOP would duck it was intended to show their corruption. That it hasn't only goes to confirm to me the sickness within the US system. A sickness which affects the GOP very much more than the Democrats.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Stirly doesn't do funny. Not the haha type anyway. Plenty of the political type though, which can also raise the odd smile from time to time, along with plenty of grimaces.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I hear what you say but in my view it's too polarised.

There is a hell of a lot of anger....you read Mainey's post?.....Well, let's just say the anger is very real on both sides.

As for how separation eventually happens, that would be worked out.....I see cooperation militarily and in other fields obviously.....However, I also see two administrations because the differences are too great.

Fundamental differences on several amendments.

I just see it as inevitable. I understand if others disagree.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Nov 2020 2.14pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Your post kind of illustrates the different lenes that exist.

Let's not bore anyone reading with old battles about Trump's presidency.

If he does stay on though I'd definitely recommend a blood pressure monitor and a few months away from the news..

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Cheer up, it's nearly Christmas!

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I think this is the general cut and thrust of it.

The possibility of him pulling it off now seems so remote, that personally I don't see the point in including it as a reasonable outcome scenario any more. Previously I would have but ongoing events are making it almost unviable. Hence my confidence in asserting 'It's done' now he's caved on transition. However, is it still possible? Sure.

That said, unlike some on here that will disregard the outcome whether it favours Biden or Trump due to their blinkered, partisan, quasi religious positions, it would be pretty stupid to continue to claim Trump had lost if he presents what he is calling 'great detail' in a 'really big lawsuit' and it is proven to be true, on the scale he is insinuating it to be. You would literally be an idiot to argue against that. It would be uncontestable, and he would write rightly get elected as a result.

Bit the longer this rumbles on, and the more republicans that start to turn, the closer we get to the call. And to me, it seems like all bluff, no stuff. Which is hardly a new strategy for him now is it.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (24 Nov 2020 3.00pm)

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