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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Mar 20 10.10am
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio are the Coptic christians living in Egypt all Islamophobic ? cos maybe they should be ? The only Coptic christians I have ever met were some of the most peaceful, calm and inspiring people I have ever encountered. I have no idea whether there are any Islamophobes among the Coptics in Egypt but from my own experience I would doubt it. They seemed prepared to live and let live and always willing to go the extra mile when needed. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 07 Mar 20 10.10am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

are the Coptic christians living in Egypt all Islamophobic ?

cos maybe they should be ?

The only Coptic christians I have ever met were some of the most peaceful, calm and inspiring people I have ever encountered.

I have no idea whether there are any Islamophobes among the Coptics in Egypt but from my own experience I would doubt it. They seemed prepared to live and let live and always willing to go the extra mile when needed.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Spiderman Horsham 07 Mar 20 10.12am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree Yeh, just imagine You’ll need to use a lot of your imagination It’s not like Yaxley-Lennon has any history is it? Somehow such things always happen to him. Like when he had to run after someone in order to punch him after the guy viciously walked away. Also, it isn’t like he has a vendetta against Muslim South Asians and seeks every opportunity to find individuals to vilify and then use those as proof that they are all wrong uns. Nope, never does that, Heaven forfend. But what would you do if you were in that position when your children were younger? If proven to be the case, did he have the right to do this? IMO yes absolutely. If fabricated the story to have a reason to thump someone should he be prosecuted?....absolutely. It seems that the lefties on here have found him guilty as charged because of his previous but those same posters will not admit that grooming gangs are of predominantly pakistani origin
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Originally posted by Mapletree

Yeh, just imagine

You’ll need to use a lot of your imagination

It’s not like Yaxley-Lennon has any history is it?

Somehow such things always happen to him. Like when he had to run after someone in order to punch him after the guy viciously walked away.

Also, it isn’t like he has a vendetta against Muslim South Asians and seeks every opportunity to find individuals to vilify and then use those as proof that they are all wrong uns.

Nope, never does that, Heaven forfend.

But what would you do if you were in that position when your children were younger?
If proven to be the case, did he have the right to do this? IMO yes absolutely.
If fabricated the story to have a reason to thump someone should he be prosecuted?....absolutely.
It seems that the lefties on here have found him guilty as charged because of his previous but those same posters will not admit that grooming gangs are of predominantly pakistani origin

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Mar 20 10.20am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Bore off Wisbech. 'Islamophobia' is a meaningless word designed purely to stifle debate about or criticism of Islam or its followers for whatever reason. By accusing people of it, you have just admitted that you have lost the argument. And the word 'populist'? Seriously? You might think it is a clever pejorative term but it is actually just an admittance that you hold a minority and increasingly unpopular and out of touch opinion. People are moving toward more radical positions because they are now beginning to see the reality of our situation rather than believe the avalanche of propaganda that they are fed in the media. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Mar 2020 10.03am) Is that the best you can do? Declaring an argument is "lost" just because you disagree with it? I suggest you don't apply to become a general. You are as entitled to your opinion as anyone else. But so am I! Populist sentiment is on the up all over the world and you are riding the wave. Waves crash though when they hit the beach called reality. Everything turns in it's time. Human progress shows that and it will again. Just be patient. Enjoy your moment though if it makes you feel happy and validated. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 07 Mar 20 10.20am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Bore off Wisbech. 'Islamophobia' is a meaningless word designed purely to stifle debate about or criticism of Islam or its followers for whatever reason.
By accusing people of it, you have just admitted that you have lost the argument.

And the word 'populist'? Seriously? You might think it is a clever pejorative term but it is actually just an admittance that you hold a minority and increasingly unpopular and out of touch opinion.

People are moving toward more radical positions because they are now beginning to see the reality of our situation rather than believe the avalanche of propaganda that they are fed in the media.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Mar 2020 10.03am)

Is that the best you can do?

Declaring an argument is "lost" just because you disagree with it?

I suggest you don't apply to become a general.

You are as entitled to your opinion as anyone else. But so am I!

Populist sentiment is on the up all over the world and you are riding the wave. Waves crash though when they hit the beach called reality.

Everything turns in it's time. Human progress shows that and it will again. Just be patient. Enjoy your moment though if it makes you feel happy and validated.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 07 Mar 20 11.12am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I don't think my views on religion could be described as a phobia. I don't fear, hate or have any prejudice against religion. I don't want to deny people the right to believe. I just don't believe myself and think it has been the source of many problems. I also acknowledge that it brings comfort and purpose to many people where it exists benignly. I just want religion to be a personal and private matter and not any part of public life. Most certainly never an official requirement or state approved. That's cleared that one up then. Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.
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Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 07 Mar 20 11.12am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't think my views on religion could be described as a phobia.

I don't fear, hate or have any prejudice against religion. I don't want to deny people the right to believe.

I just don't believe myself and think it has been the source of many problems. I also acknowledge that it brings comfort and purpose to many people where it exists benignly.

I just want religion to be a personal and private matter and not any part of public life. Most certainly never an official requirement or state approved.

That's cleared that one up then.

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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Hrolf The Ganger 07 Mar 20 11.21am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Is that the best you can do? Declaring an argument is "lost" just because you disagree with it? I suggest you don't apply to become a general. You are as entitled to your opinion as anyone else. But so am I! Populist sentiment is on the up all over the world and you are riding the wave. Waves crash though when they hit the beach called reality. Everything turns in it's time. Human progress shows that and it will again. Just be patient. Enjoy your moment though if it makes you feel happy and validated. You live in an idealistic world Wisbech, You think that humanity will come good and overcome all of its animal instincts and primitive ideas. This is not Star Trek. This is the cold hard painful reality of 21st century life. I concern myself with the immediate future that I can affect, albeit in a tiny way. I don't intend to remain mute while watching my country get destroyed so that some old idealistic dreamer like you can keep dreaming, undisturbed by the voice of reality.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Is that the best you can do?

Declaring an argument is "lost" just because you disagree with it?

I suggest you don't apply to become a general.

You are as entitled to your opinion as anyone else. But so am I!

Populist sentiment is on the up all over the world and you are riding the wave. Waves crash though when they hit the beach called reality.

Everything turns in it's time. Human progress shows that and it will again. Just be patient. Enjoy your moment though if it makes you feel happy and validated.

You live in an idealistic world Wisbech, You think that humanity will come good and overcome all of its animal instincts and primitive ideas.
This is not Star Trek. This is the cold hard painful reality of 21st century life.

I concern myself with the immediate future that I can affect, albeit in a tiny way. I don't intend to remain mute while watching my country get destroyed so that some old idealistic dreamer like you can keep dreaming, undisturbed by the voice of reality.

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Teddy Eagle 07 Mar 20 11.33am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I don't think my views on religion could be described as a phobia. I don't fear, hate or have any prejudice against religion. I don't want to deny people the right to believe. I just don't believe myself and think it has been the source of many problems. I also acknowledge that it brings comfort and purpose to many people where it exists benignly. I just want religion to be a personal and private matter and not any part of public life. Most certainly never an official requirement or state approved. Those with more interest in religion may well suggest you refer to Matthew 7:5.
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Teddy Eagle

07 Mar 20 11.33am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't think my views on religion could be described as a phobia.

I don't fear, hate or have any prejudice against religion. I don't want to deny people the right to believe.

I just don't believe myself and think it has been the source of many problems. I also acknowledge that it brings comfort and purpose to many people where it exists benignly.

I just want religion to be a personal and private matter and not any part of public life. Most certainly never an official requirement or state approved.

Those with more interest in religion may well suggest you refer to Matthew 7:5.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 07 Mar 20 11.33am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Spiderman It seems that the lefties on here have found him guilty as charged because of his previous but those same posters will not admit that grooming gangs are of predominantly pakistani origin Oh but we don't say that. In newspeak the word is 'Asian. Just to confuse them with Chinese, Japanese, Tajikistan....wherever. cos the BBC are oh so truthful. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle

Originally posted by Spiderman

It seems that the lefties on here have found him guilty as charged because of his previous but those same posters will not admit that grooming gangs are of predominantly pakistani origin

Oh but we don't say that. In newspeak the word is 'Asian. Just to confuse them with Chinese, Japanese, Tajikistan....wherever.

cos the BBC are oh so truthful.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Midlands Eagle 07 Mar 20 11.46am
We seem to have three lengthy threads all dealing with the same subject so I have tidied things up
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07 Mar 20 11.46am

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We seem to have three lengthy threads all dealing with the same subject so I have tidied things up

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becky over the moon 07 Mar 20 11.53am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle We seem to have three lengthy threads all dealing with the same subject so I have tidied things up I'd hate to see your sock drawer........ A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 07 Mar 20 11.53am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

We seem to have three lengthy threads all dealing with the same subject so I have tidied things up

I'd hate to see your sock drawer........

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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Stirlingsays 07 Mar 20 12.23pm
I waited before giving judgement on this event but here Robinson records a call between him and Police and it's effective evidence that what Robinson said was true and that those on this thread pouring scorn on him are once again wrong. As has been said, they aren't interested in the truth and should be judged accordingly. Robinson is perfectly justified to view the Police as we judge them.....with distrust and scorn. [Tweet Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Mar 2020 12.24pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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07 Mar 20 12.23pm

I waited before giving judgement on this event but here Robinson records a call between him and Police and it's effective evidence that what Robinson said was true and that those on this thread pouring scorn on him are once again wrong.

As has been said, they aren't interested in the truth and should be judged accordingly.

Robinson is perfectly justified to view the Police as we judge them.....with distrust and scorn.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Mar 2020 12.24pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 07 Mar 20 1.26pm
And by extension the lying media reports that distort and omit in their urge to remove any suggestion that Robinson might have done something justified. These people are scum. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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07 Mar 20 1.26pm

And by extension the lying media reports that distort and omit in their urge to remove any suggestion that Robinson might have done something justified.

These people are scum.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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cryrst The garden of England 07 Mar 20 1.39pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle My conclusion was based on the comments posted here, as are all others about the attitudes expressed by anyone. As I haven't noticed any reticence from those who I regard as demonstrating Islamophobic characteristics to restrain themselves on forming and expressing opinions then I think I am entitled to do the same. Don't you? Islamaphobic characteristics. Can you explain how highlighting that 80% odd of grooming gangs are muslim/islamic/asian etc (whichever terminology fits a saturday);is islamophobic
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The garden of England 07 Mar 20 1.39pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

My conclusion was based on the comments posted here, as are all others about the attitudes expressed by anyone.

As I haven't noticed any reticence from those who I regard as demonstrating Islamophobic characteristics to restrain themselves on forming and expressing opinions then I think I am entitled to do the same.

Don't you?

Islamaphobic characteristics.
Can you explain how highlighting that 80% odd of grooming gangs are muslim/islamic/asian etc (whichever terminology fits a saturday);is islamophobic

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