Those who hope for a resurgent hard right Tory Party, whether called that or Remain, being strong enough to be anything more than a noisy nuisance in the 2029 election are going to be very disappointed.

I believe, and hope, the Tories will finally split. It’s long overdue. It could trigger a more general realignment. The right deserve a voice, just as the left does. The bulk of us are not though either truly left or right. Most have a bit of both in our political thinking. The centre will always tend to hold power here, probably in the future via coalitions which sometimes include the right and sometimes the left but mostly just the centre left and centre right. What their names will be is less important.

Whether it will prove better than we have had in the last 80 years time alone will tell but I wager people will still be complaining here.

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They are not stupid, they are split. As are the "blue" electorate. Broad church was formerly a good thing for the party. Now it is what is destroying it.

The debate rages about how Brexit has and continues to effect our everyday lives, but there is no doubt in my head that it is Europe (AGAIN) that is bringing down the tory party.

I certainly hope so!

A whining populace pressing politicians to do better provides the impetus for them to do so and not drift into complacent self service.

That is always better than a soma fed, stupefied populace willing to accept as fact anything they hear.

Sunak's plan is to say the word 'plan' multiple times in the belief that people will think he has one.

Now he is acting with the 'will of the people' without any justification for that statement, he actually thinks small boats are a national emergency.

At the 2019 election the tory manifesto said they would observe international law and the refugee convention.

That is the actual mandate they have.

I thought his news conference was ridiculous and the media too, the public have much more important issues than small boats.

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What does the panel make of this? Galloway certainly knows how to get the Muslim vote out and with his party standing in 500 plus seats, might make a difference.

My own take on it is that the impact might be difficult to gauge. Given that an assumption has to be that it will be the Muslim vote it stands to sway the most then I am wondering how easy will that be for the pollsters to take into account?

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

The incumbent since 2007 is a Punjabi born Hindu, I suppose it depends how much of the Labour vote was muslim who would transfer to George rather than Monty

Panesar was never the sharpest knife in the block but George is a very canny politician.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.