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 Stirlingsays  01 Jun 23 3.42pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
mmmm This is a hotly debated area, and I'm not sure there is a cast iron 'it's this or it's that' that everyone agrees on, but you both appear to be wrong according to one generally accepted description of the two things... Race and ethnicity are used to categorize sections of the population. Race refers to dividing people into groups, often based on physical characteristics. Ethnicity refers to the cultural expression and identification of people of different geographic regions, including their customs, history, language, and religion. In basic terms, race describes physical traits, and ethnicity refers to cultural identification. Race may also be identified as something you inherit, whereas ethnicity is something you learn. However once again the thread topic is not being discussed and everybody is falling back into the same old tropes... The separation of race from ethnicity is not what the word means. This sounds like a modern attempt to re-engineer the word....like people who use jealously incorrectly when what they actually mean is envy or progressive attempts to re-define 'racism'. When you say 'hotly debated', that's the actual reality...certain sociopolitical groups want to change the meanings of previously well accepted terms to fall into line with their ideologies. Ethnicity is a collective description of someone's background and is used to identify groups. It simply doesn't exclude race just as it doesn't emphasize it over other aspects. There are better words for that. Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2023 3.46pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Jun 23 3.46pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
But if they self - identify as the opposite gender they are correct. When did I say that? My own view is that it requires more than just your own opinion. It does though appear to be the view of some who make the laws. I believe their reasoning is to try to reduce the chances of suicide from depression.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Jun 23 3.52pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
You of course often post nonsense, but here you are plumbing new depths. You are literally arguing that black is white. It seems you are making a habit of making ridiculous assertions! It simply means that the colour of a person's skin is not an appropriate way of describing their identity.
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Teddy Eagle  01 Jun 23 3.54pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
When did I say that? My own view is that it requires more than just your own opinion. It does though appear to be the view of some who make the laws. I believe their reasoning is to try to reduce the chances of suicide from depression. It wasn't a personal accusation; just a reflection on the current situation. As to the rationale I would have thought the suicide rate was likely to increase as more people regret a decision taken so early in their life but that's another thread.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Jun 23 4.00pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You are wrong. Ethnicity includes all aspects of someone's background. It does not exclude their race....which again, you try to reduce to skin colour as if that's all it means. Yours is the politics that doesn't deserve traction because it's based on lies, half truths and deceptions. Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2023 11.49am) You aren't arguing with me! You are arguing with every Dictionary I have read on this subject. None of them states that skin colour plays any role at all in a person's ethnicity. You obviously decided to ignore the extract I posted, presumably because it doesn't match your ideas!
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Jun 23 4.05pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Wisbech's long reply pushes the idea that encouraging immigration into the country is good for economics and thinks the negative affects are worth it...presumably (because it doesn't affect him). Then he suggests that when immigrants are getting old....seeming to ignore the fact that this has already happened from earlier immigration....that we should just deport non integrated problem people....Where? That he seems to omit. It's a completely facetious point as he knows that would never happen. If someone is born here they are a citizen/subject and the law would need significant alternation to achieve that. However I do note with some amusement Wisbech's alignment here with the old National Front policy on easy deportation. And again, he seems completely ignorant of the sheer numbers of new immigrants he'd constantly need to support the increase in numbers. As Badger pointed out, all this is doing is storing up considerable problems for the future as automation is the obvious solution to these problems not immigrant populations. Strictly enforced work visas could be looked at....but as in Japan it would have to be taken seriously...which considering the current state of our legal and institutional base is highly unlikely. Plus all the globalist institutions he supports are aggressively pushing immigration into European countries. They wouldn't support his far right deportation plan.
I'll return to this later. I've got more important things to do than debunk this kind of illogicality at the moment.
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| Stirlingsays 01 Jun 23 4.10pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You aren't arguing with me! You are arguing with every Dictionary I have read on this subject. None of them states that skin colour plays any role at all in a person's ethnicity. You obviously decided to ignore the extract I posted, presumably because it doesn't match your ideas!
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Attachment:  georgenorman 01 Jun 23 5.19pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It seems you are making a habit of making ridiculous assertions! It simply means that the colour of a person's skin is not an appropriate way of describing their identity. You had better tell that to the National Black Police Association and the Metropolitan Black Police Association.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 01 Jun 23 6.17pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
You of course often post nonsense, but here you are plumbing new depths. You are literally arguing that black is white. In response to a much earlier wisbech post I did suggest that he would argue that black was white and now hes only gone and done just that!! Priceless !! Edited by the silurian (01 Jun 2023 6.17pm)
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cryrst  The garden of England 01 Jun 23 7.27pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
It wasn't a personal accusation; just a reflection on the current situation. As to the rationale I would have thought the suicide rate was likely to increase as more people regret a decision taken so early in their life but that's another thread. There are facts to back this up if a search is done. Normally around the 15 year mark is average but hey let’s carry on this mutilation for the sake of a tiny minority.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 01 Jun 23 9.02pm |
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and Getting back to the subject of the OP...... The population of Ireland is up, way up. But the Media are clamping down on ascribing it to Immigration...and Fertility is down......it must be the Fairy Folk then ?
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| Stirlingsays 01 Jun 23 10.46pm |
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Total long-term immigration was estimated at around 1.2 million in 2022, and emigration was 557,000, which means migration continues to add to the population with net migration at 606,000; most people arriving to the UK in 2022 were non-EU nationals (925,000), followed by EU (151,000) and British (88,000). The British part is questionable. Source ONS Housing has not been keeping up with immigration rates for decades and despite political noises nothing changed. Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2023 10.47pm)
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