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southnorwoodhill 21 Mar 23 9.40pm | |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
Some of the papers said productive talks took place between Parish and Hodgson over the weekend, after Vieira was sacked. Whether initial talks took place earlier or not we will probably never know but Parish, like all club owners or chairmen, is damned either way. If he didn't speak to Hodgson before sacking Vieira then he's taken a reckless gamble that Roy would say yes, if he's spoken to Roy first then he's taken a reckless gamble that Patrick wouldn't find out in an industry that cannot keep anything important secret! Well call me Mr Incredulous. Parish has decided PV must go, and before anyone can say "Royball" he's on the blower to Roy with an offer he can't refuse. Roy is happy to drop his retirement plans for another 10 game stint in survival football management. Remarkable. I guess stranger things have happened. Edited by southnorwoodhill (21 Mar 2023 9.45pm)
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MrRobbo Chaldon 21 Mar 23 10.43pm | |
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
Touchy subject? If that's good enough for you, that's fine. Me, I'm curious about motivation and such like. Human interaction, psychology, that sort of thing. Areas of interest. Hodgson will have a good grasp of them as he attempts to knock these players into shape. Same. I wonder if he doing Parish a favour? Or if he didnt want his career to end on a relegation, so this is redemption. Maybe we'll see the most fired up Roy of all time
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sydtheeagle England 21 Mar 23 10.59pm | |
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Well, I suppose after Osian Roberts, it'll be nice for the players to have a coach who's in good enough shape to move nimbly around the training ground even if he is 75. All those donuts VG brings to work...pretty f***ing obvious where they've been ending up, isn't it?
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PJEagle London 21 Mar 23 11.15pm | |
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill ome
I'd be more interested in understanding why Hodgson has taken the role. A candid statement from Hodgson would be welcome. I'm pretty sure he said that the Watford role was his last, understandable given his time in the game. No need to answer Parish's call, he'd left Palace and done his bit. Why come back for 10 games that could tarnish his reputation? I'm sure he'll be interviewed by Linneker on MOTD at some stage, posssibly after the Leicester match!
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radicalsteve ottawa 21 Mar 23 11.29pm | |
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If you think about it PV gets off being responsible for the end result and walks into the sunset with a package and all the media (and many here) saying how he was wronged, not supported by the board, and how he would have kept us up for sure (because we have a bunch of soft fixtures coming our way). Then Roy comes in and only has his personal pride to loose, which is somewhat ameliorated by a not too shabby pay cheque for a few weeks work, notwithstanding a handsome bonus if we stay up. I actually don't begrudge him any of that, because he is a decent bloke and actually has a real connection with the club and he will work his bollocks off to get the team performing as best he can. Then the players "arrive in style" so do they really give a sh*t, other than Wardy, Wilf and Maca, although I think Luca, Guehi Doucouré, and a couple of others really do their best. Then Parish, preens himself in Soho, fails to do a press conference and sips macchiato with Dougie, recalling how he saved the club from extinction, while the other board members dial in to a zoom call and turn up to a match in a blue moon. So who the f*ck is accountable? What a weird business .....
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cryrst The garden of England 22 Mar 23 12.48am | |
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What happens if by some miracle we win 5 or 6 games.
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Midlands Eagle 22 Mar 23 5.35am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
What happens if by some miracle we win 5 or 6 games. if that happens it leaves the club in a far better position to attract a more modern forward thinking manager
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cryrst The garden of England 22 Mar 23 5.37am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
if that happens it leaves the club in a far better position to attract a more modern forward thinking manager I think winning those games would mean exactly that we had that though.
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southnorwoodhill 22 Mar 23 6.51am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I think winning those games would mean exactly that we had that though. Although Roy appears to have combatted the stresses and strains of being a modern day football manager and looks in reasonably good shape for his age, I would be concerned how another season of Royball would affect him, the players, and the fans.
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taylors lovechild 22 Mar 23 7.03am | |
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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid
Looking forward to a bit of 442 instead of no 6s, no 8s "pivots", "double pivots" CDMs and all the other tedious rubbish. The stuff on social media about Roy not being the future, "embarrassment" etc. How fvcking dense or thick can you get. Fair enough. Personally I stopped looking forward to any of our games under Roy by halfway through his third season. After 75 minutes of eye-wateringly awful football (using that word in the loosest terms) we'd then spend either the last 15 minutes hanging on for a draw/narrow win or we'd throw the kitchen sink at the opposition having not laid a glove on them for most of the game. I'm laying my hopes on Roy recognising that our best hopes are not conceding possession rather doing more with the possession we have. Less sideways passing at the back is something I'd be glad to see the back of. I also think we'll stick with 4-3-3, just with three defensive midfielders
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Rachid Rachid Rachid 22 Mar 23 7.41am | |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
Fair enough. Personally I stopped looking forward to any of our games under Roy by halfway through his third season. After 75 minutes of eye-wateringly awful football (using that word in the loosest terms) we'd then spend either the last 15 minutes hanging on for a draw/narrow win or we'd throw the kitchen sink at the opposition having not laid a glove on them for most of the game. I'm laying my hopes on Roy recognising that our best hopes are not conceding possession rather doing more with the possession we have. Less sideways passing at the back is something I'd be glad to see the back of. I also think we'll stick with 4-3-3, just with three defensive midfielders I agree re the parking the bus - I think we’ll go down if that’s what he does. We haven’t got a decent forward who can play up front on his own and the only way I see us getting goals is with Zaha in a front two perhaps with Mateta who at least makes some effort to stretch our opponents (pains me to say it). We played some decent football when Roy had ball playing cente backs ty previously. All of the players have to start taking responsibility in the final third.
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sydtheeagle England 22 Mar 23 8.50am | |
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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid
Looking forward to a bit of 442 instead of no 6s, no 8s "pivots", "double pivots" CDMs and all the other tedious rubbish. The stuff on social media about Roy not being the future, "embarrassment" etc. How fvcking dense or thick can you get. In many ways, I hear you. "Possession-based" football when the possession involves only sending the ball sideways or backward is no more palatable than counter-attacking 4-4-2. And it always struck me that for all PV's tactical modernisation of Palace, we were only ever threatening when the long ball became involved. We'd crab twenty passes together going nowhere, and only when Andersen humped it upfield did we suddenly become dangerous. If you have someone with Andersen's ability to hit an accurate long-ball then you have a weapon. The possession-based game once Conor was gone (or still here but off-the-boil) was toothless and, by the end, not even pleasant to watch.
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