I totally agree. Worth noting that top managers keep themselves in shape. I'm currently reading a psychology book that mentions how the subconscious picks up on things, and there does seem to be a correlation with this team's lack of running and the shape of the management team.

There are great players, that went on to be great managers, but not that many.
Pep, Areta, Conte all in top 4 of the Premier league.

You say that, but from us down the combined wins of the 9 teams are just 11 over the last five games and some of those wins were against each other. That's only just over one win per team. Leicester and Forest are below us in the form guide. We are not in a great position, but neither are a lot of teams many of which (especially Leicester and West Ham) are probably scratching their heads and saying "Surely our squad are better than this?" Are Moyes and Rodgers suddenly terrible managers? I am less confident in Vieira than I was a month ago, but for me it isn't like the Pardew situation, for example, where it was obvious he was clueless.

Perhaps in these modern times footballers who are upset at how they are treated or if they are spoken to harshly go to HR to complain ?

Gone, and before the Arsenal game. Player power, a bunch of lazy cnuts who let him down big time. Although he had his failings, the calibre of player he had to deal with falls well short of a professional outfit. I really do hope that the whoever takes the post sorts the wheat from the chaff.

Yes, it's six of one and half a dozen of the other. In the football world it's always the manager who takes the hit, these players need to take a long hard look at themselves. Do they really give a s*** as long as the bank balance keeps ticking over? There's a few frauds in this team.