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 HKOwen  Hong Kong 07 Oct 22 9.47pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
There aren't any actual tax cuts (except for the very wealthy) in the budget anyway. This is because the tax thresholds have been frozen for four years not indexed to inflation as has been the practice. It's actually a 'nice little earner' for the treasury. Your 1£ tax gain is actually costing you £2. Reading the FT it is generally forecast that the UK economy will contract next year and we will be in a long recession with stagflation. Truss has introduced a cost of borrowing crisis where there was none, every household will have to pay eventually with zero gain to anybody.
So, why have interest rates increased globally, does Truss have such a reach she can influence rates in the rest of the world. Ideologically based economic sound bytes. It's a free world so enjoy your bubble Edited by HKOwen (07 Oct 2022 9.48pm)
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Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 07 Oct 22 11.05pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
So, why have interest rates increased globally, does Truss have such a reach she can influence rates in the rest of the world. Ideologically based economic sound bytes. It's a free world so enjoy your bubble Edited by HKOwen (07 Oct 2022 9.48pm) Generally accepted wisdom accepts that if you are in a hole, the best thing to is not dig it deeper. The world is in a depression. We were in a hole, caused by that depression and Brexit. Having a desired direction of travel is fine. We can disagree with it and criticise it, but can also understand it. Deciding to rush headlong down the road, without a clear idea of how to steer the vehicle, without fuel in the tank to get you there, or reserves to tackle contingencies, whilst alienating those you depend on for support, is simply irresponsible idealism. A wise builder measures twice and cuts once. It seems Truss's first measurement was faulty and her cut misdirected. Truss has dug our hole deeper. Instead of first creating the stability from which we can grow, she has set back the time when that could start. It's a huge own goal, scored by Truss, but assisted by the Tory Party membership.
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| Midlands Eagle 08 Oct 22 6.02am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Truss has dug our hole deeper. Instead of first creating the stability from which we can grow, she has set back the time when that could start. It's a huge own goal, scored by Truss, but assisted by the Tory Party membership. Interesting times ahead bearing in mind that only about 50 Tory MPs supported Truss in the first round and she only got the top job thanks to the elderly buffoons that comprise the Conservative Membership who voted her in against the wishes of their own MPs who knew her best. The Red Wall constituencies will revert back to Labour whilst safe Tory seats will switch to Lib Dem and the result will be another hung parliament as Labour cannot win outright unless they take Scotland which they won't be able to do. Well done buffoons
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Oct 22 8.25am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Interesting times ahead bearing in mind that only about 50 Tory MPs supported Truss in the first round and she only got the top job thanks to the elderly buffoons that comprise the Conservative Membership who voted her in against the wishes of their own MPs who knew her best. The Red Wall constituencies will revert back to Labour whilst safe Tory seats will switch to Lib Dem and the result will be another hung parliament as Labour cannot win outright unless they take Scotland which they won't be able to do. Well done buffoons This is a gross generalisation and I for one do not recognise such a characterization of the Conservative membership. I have been a staunch member for decades, I have known those in the membership for many a year and had the privilege of being in the company of many avuncular and perspicacious ladies and gentleman, with rich life experiences and from an array of backgrounds and professions.Such people are not buffoons but estimable human beings with erudition seeping from every pore.
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Henry of Peckham  Eton Mess 08 Oct 22 8.54am |
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Originally posted by Willo
This is a gross generalisation and I for one do not recognise such a characterization of the Conservative membership. I have been a staunch member for decades, I have known those in the membership for many a year and had the privilege of being in the company of many avuncular and perspicacious ladies and gentleman, with rich life experiences and from an array of backgrounds and professions.Such people are not buffoons but estimable human beings with erudition seeping from every pore. Sorry Willo ... they've definitely cocked up by 'selecting' Liz Truss. I don't think they knew her well enough or understood the implications of her policies in these difficult times. They certainly haven’t monitored her political career. Did you vote for her?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Oct 22 9.01am |
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Originally posted by Willo
This is a gross generalisation and I for one do not recognise such a characterization of the Conservative membership. I have been a staunch member for decades, I have known those in the membership for many a year and had the privilege of being in the company of many avuncular and perspicacious ladies and gentleman, with rich life experiences and from an array of backgrounds and professions.Such people are not buffoons but estimable human beings with erudition seeping from every pore. There are a number of definitions of "buffoon" on the internet. The one that seems most apposite is this:- "Someone whose ridiculous behaviour is a source of amusement to others". So it has nothing to do with background and experiences. It only refers to behaviour. As others, including me, find the behaviour ridiculous, even if isn't that amusing, I think the use of the term is accurate.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 08 Oct 22 9.28am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There are a number of definitions of "buffoon" on the internet. The one that seems most apposite is this:- "Someone whose ridiculous behaviour is a source of amusement to others". So it has nothing to do with background and experiences. It only refers to behaviour. As others, including me, find the behaviour ridiculous, even if isn't that amusing, I think the use of the term is accurate. Says the self proclaimed conservative.
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| Midlands Eagle 08 Oct 22 10.09am |
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Originally posted by Willo
This is a gross generalisation and I for one do not recognise such a characterization of the Conservative membership. I have been a staunch member for decades, I have known those in the membership for many a year and had the privilege of being in the company of many avuncular and perspicacious ladies and gentleman, with rich life experiences and from an array of backgrounds and professions.Such people are not buffoons but estimable human beings with erudition seeping from every pore. Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There are a number of definitions of "buffoon" on the internet. The one that seems most apposite is this:- "Someone whose ridiculous behaviour is a source of amusement to others". No further comment
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The groover  Danbury 08 Oct 22 11.59am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
So, why have interest rates increased globally, does Truss have such a reach she can influence rates in the rest of the world. Ideologically based economic sound bytes. It's a free world so enjoy your bubble Edited by HKOwen (07 Oct 2022 9.48pm) This is because central banks only have the one weapon to combat inflation. Regardless of the source of that inflation. Interest rate rises have historically been used to dampen consumer spending. In cases where inflation is not being caused by over spending, such as now, they still increase interest rates, basically because they have their heads buried in the sand and for supposedly intelligent people are actually as thick as sh!te. In a case where inflation is caused by energy costs increasing interest rates simply adds to the inflation as company borrowing costs more, thus prices go up and consumers have less to spend so less items get purchased. its a spiral into recession and the idiots poor petrol on the fire by increasing interest rates. It would be far better of they were to control energy/fuel prices by using variable tax rates and subsidies. Thus the cost of items would not increase and the economy would remain on a stable footing. But they are too stupid to work that out.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Oct 22 1.01pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Says the self proclaimed conservative. True! Self proclaimed centre-right, one nation, conservative voter. Not a hard-right activist stealing conservative clothes. And not a Party Member who believes they have the right to choose our PM. That’s where the buffoonery lies..
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 08 Oct 22 1.39pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There are a number of definitions of "buffoon" on the internet. The one that seems most apposite is this:- "Someone whose ridiculous behaviour is a source of amusement to others". So it has nothing to do with background and experiences. It only refers to behaviour. As others, including me, find the behaviour ridiculous, even if isn't that amusing, I think the use of the term is accurate. Then by your own definition you are a buffoon and I claim my £5
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Oct 22 2.40pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Then by your own definition you are a buffoon and I claim my £5 It’s ridiculous to expect £5 to materialise out of thin air as the prize for a non-existent competition. It’s also quite amusing. Where, I wonder, does that leave you?
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