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 YT  Oxford 21 Jul 22 2.02pm |
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See the thing is; even a PM who wins a landslide has 60% or more of the electorate 'against' them ie didn't vote for them. Then, from day 1, 'opposition' consists of hounding/slagging off the governing party and looking for opportunities to demand that ministers and ultimately the Prime Minister should resign. The media are gleeful participants in this sport. I'm not being partisan here. What I describe is true whichever party (or coalition) forms the government. An opposition should by all means challenge government policies, but should do so by explaining what their policies would be and why they would be preferable. But what we actually get is the politics of the school playground. This is no new phenomenon. It has always been thus. Consequently government is a thankless task at which no party or coalition can possibly succeed.
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| silvertop Portishead 21 Jul 22 2.39pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I have been in conversation with an array of supporters and the consensus is that not only would they like to see his name on the ballot paper but that he would emerge victorious by a 'Country mile'. They are also firmly of the opinion that he would have been an electoral asset and the Conservative chances of success at the General Election have diminished on account of the actions of the 'Herd'. You keep telling yourself that if it gives comfort. Bj is more electable than the 2 contestants I give you that but not so that he would sweep another GE without the Brexit Bang and in a very different world.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Jul 22 2.59pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
You keep telling yourself that if it gives comfort. Bj is more electable than the 2 contestants I give you that but not so that he would sweep another GE without the Brexit Bang and in a very different world. With respect I never insinuated that Boris Johnson would win the next General Election by a sizeable majority. Edited by Willo (21 Jul 2022 2.59pm)
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| daven Hailsham 21 Jul 22 3.05pm |
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PM4PM voted out at 4PM
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 21 Jul 22 8.44pm |
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Originally posted by daven
PM4PM voted out at 4PM
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 23 Jul 22 4.18pm |
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the forces that removed Boris.....evil dark submarine forces. Mostly using the dark journalistic arts. Tony Bliar could have had ten parties at Downing Street during a lockdown....and got away with it.
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| Stirlingsays 23 Jul 22 4.56pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
the forces that removed Boris.....evil dark submarine forces. Mostly using the dark journalistic arts. Tony Bliar could have had ten parties at Downing Street during a lockdown....and got away with it. The dark lord.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 23 Jul 22 5.39pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
My nearest hustings venue is at Eastbourne, however it is scheduled for Friday 5th August, when we entertain Arsenal so I shall have to make the trip up to London for the last event, 31 August. On second thoughts I might attend hustings in Cheltenham on 11th August and spend a few days in that delightful neck of the woods. Edited by Willo (21 Jul 2022 10.53am) Are there no hustings in Hastings Willo?
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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cryrst  The garden of England 23 Jul 22 5.57pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
the forces that removed Boris.....evil dark submarine forces. Mostly using the dark journalistic arts. Tony Bliar could have had ten parties at Downing Street during a lockdown....and got away with it. Well once a new ‘leader??!!’ Is installed at the Tory HQ the labour parties’ will suddenly be in the open. Too late to actually give a tos s by then.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Jul 22 7.21pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Are there no hustings in Hastings Willo? No hustings in Hastings.
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| silvertop Portishead 24 Jul 22 9.43am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
the forces that removed Boris.....evil dark submarine forces. Mostly using the dark journalistic arts. Tony Bliar could have had ten parties at Downing Street during a lockdown....and got away with it. The tory press barons favour Blair over Johnson?! Now I've heard everything.
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| Matov 24 Jul 22 10.59am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
the forces that removed Boris.....evil dark submarine forces. Mostly using the dark journalistic arts. Tony Bliar could have had ten parties at Downing Street during a lockdown....and got away with it.
He only ever backed Leave because he assumed, as did almost all other senior politicians, that Remain would win but banked that it would stand him in good stead with the grassroots Tory activists who would back him when a future Leadership election came up. We left the EU thanks to the combination of Domminc Cummings and Nigel Fargae. Johnson rode the bandwagon, with some aplomb I will concede, but from everything I can make out, he was effectively c***-struck by this Carrie woman who flooded number 10 with her people and bulls*** woke/carbon zero. He had a fantastic mandate and chose to blow it all (no pun intended) because he could not control his own household. He was a s*** Prime Minister. As simple as that.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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