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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 17 Feb 22 1.43pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops You’ve either totally missed the wider point or are fully engaged with the trend. I’m guessing it’s probably the latter. Or, not everyone has to sign up to Team A or Team B in this faux culture war nonsense the tabloids keep punting. I think it's pathetic and stupid from the landlord, I think you could probably find some moral issue with every product in the pub if you dug deep enough and so it's a pointless position to try and maintain. But I think it's equally pathetic for someone to be molten with anger over what is sold in a pub they've presumably never set foot in. I think the two are as pathetic as each other.
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops

You’ve either totally missed the wider point or are fully engaged with the trend. I’m guessing it’s probably the latter.

Or, not everyone has to sign up to Team A or Team B in this faux culture war nonsense the tabloids keep punting.

I think it's pathetic and stupid from the landlord, I think you could probably find some moral issue with every product in the pub if you dug deep enough and so it's a pointless position to try and maintain.

But I think it's equally pathetic for someone to be molten with anger over what is sold in a pub they've presumably never set foot in.

I think the two are as pathetic as each other.

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Hrolf The Ganger 17 Feb 22 1.44pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Why does it? Have you ever visited the pub or have any plans to? Assuming the answer is no, how on earth have you reached a point where the drinks selection at a pub in another part of the country, makes you 'molten with anger'? Surely a pub landlord has the right to serve whatever drinks he wants? and you as the consumer have the right to go there or not go there based on that selection. If people are not happy with what he's done, the pub will soon go bust. What else are you expecting? Pubs being mandated to serve certain products? These articles are all so pathetic, and even more pathetic is people who get convinced that what a pub they don't go to serves people to drink is important. You are an apologist for nuttery. It's that simple. Once upon a time, leftists and victim mentality merchants used to dismiss these kinds of stories as tabloid nonsense, but now, we can see where appeasing and excusing away nuttery gets us. It has become a cancer in our society. The lunatics have actually taken over the asylum, and not in the way that the Fun Boy Three imagined.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Why does it? Have you ever visited the pub or have any plans to?

Assuming the answer is no, how on earth have you reached a point where the drinks selection at a pub in another part of the country, makes you 'molten with anger'?

Surely a pub landlord has the right to serve whatever drinks he wants? and you as the consumer have the right to go there or not go there based on that selection.

If people are not happy with what he's done, the pub will soon go bust. What else are you expecting? Pubs being mandated to serve certain products?

These articles are all so pathetic, and even more pathetic is people who get convinced that what a pub they don't go to serves people to drink is important.

You are an apologist for nuttery. It's that simple. Once upon a time, leftists and victim mentality merchants used to dismiss these kinds of stories as tabloid nonsense, but now, we can see where appeasing and excusing away nuttery gets us. It has become a cancer in our society.

The lunatics have actually taken over the asylum, and not in the way that the Fun Boy Three imagined.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 17 Feb 22 1.47pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You are an apologist for nuttery. It's that simple. Once upon a time, leftists and victim mentality merchants used to dismiss these kinds of stories as tabloid nonsense, but now, we can see where appeasing and excusing away nuttery gets us. It has become a cancer in our society. The lunatics have actually taken over the asylum, and not in the way that the Fun Boy Three imagined. so what do you suggest? Should the landlord be forced to sell certain products?
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SE19 17 Feb 22 1.47pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The lunatics have actually taken over the asylum, and not in the way that the Fun Boy Three imagined.

so what do you suggest? Should the landlord be forced to sell certain products?

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Matov 17 Feb 22 1.56pm
Landlord decides not to sell certain products. People have a choice whether to spend their money with him or not. It is nice and simple. My only real issue with regard to this is that those on the Left who defend this decision do not seem to hold the same values when it comes to people offering services for money that they don't like. But we on the Right are superior to them and should not stoop to their level. This Landlord should be able to sell whatever brand of booze he likes. Along with refusing service to anybody he dislikes. This is the point of 'free enterprise'. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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17 Feb 22 1.56pm

Landlord decides not to sell certain products. People have a choice whether to spend their money with him or not. It is nice and simple.

My only real issue with regard to this is that those on the Left who defend this decision do not seem to hold the same values when it comes to people offering services for money that they don't like. But we on the Right are superior to them and should not stoop to their level.

This Landlord should be able to sell whatever brand of booze he likes. Along with refusing service to anybody he dislikes. This is the point of 'free enterprise'.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Stirlingsays 17 Feb 22 2.07pm
Originally posted by Matov Landlord decides not to sell certain products. People have a choice whether to spend their money with him or not. It is nice and simple. My only real issue with regard to this is that those on the Left who defend this decision do not seem to hold the same values when it comes to people offering services for money that they don't like. But we on the Right are superior to them and should not stoop to their level. This Landlord should be able to sell whatever brand of booze he likes. Along with refusing service to anybody he dislikes. This is the point of 'free enterprise'. I agree with this. It's certainly true that when the 'gay cake' situation occurred there was a distinct lack of these libertarian arguments being made on the left. Society use to be that by default but in reality there have been limitations put onto businesses for many decades now. It was one of those arguments that I was conflicted on for years, back when 'equality' arguments had some cultural sense for me, but now I see those arguments for what they are and since I've become more socially conservative I'm now fully against those restrictions. Where there is free trade, everyone can be catered for and punishing businesses becomes more ideological than libertarian. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Feb 2022 2.10pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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17 Feb 22 2.07pm

Originally posted by Matov

Landlord decides not to sell certain products. People have a choice whether to spend their money with him or not. It is nice and simple.

This Landlord should be able to sell whatever brand of booze he likes. Along with refusing service to anybody he dislikes. This is the point of 'free enterprise'.

I agree with this.

It's certainly true that when the 'gay cake' situation occurred there was a distinct lack of these libertarian arguments being made on the left.

Society use to be that by default but in reality there have been limitations put onto businesses for many decades now. It was one of those arguments that I was conflicted on for years, back when 'equality' arguments had some cultural sense for me, but now I see those arguments for what they are and since I've become more socially conservative I'm now fully against those restrictions.

Where there is free trade, everyone can be catered for and punishing businesses becomes more ideological than libertarian.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Feb 2022 2.10pm)

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Matov 17 Feb 22 2.13pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I agree with this. It's certainly true that when the 'gay cake' situation occurred there was a distinct lack of these libertarian arguments being made on the left. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Feb 2022 2.08pm) A fantastic example. But the Left are just hypocrites. Utter scum who want to control peoples lives. We are much, much, much better than they are. Good luck to this Landlord. If he does not want to sell Babycham because it just encourages homosexuals to use the premises or clear his shelves of Guinness because of the Irish who drink it, the best of British to him. His business, his rules. And he can either sink or swim dependent on them. I salute his decision. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

17 Feb 22 2.13pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I agree with this.

It's certainly true that when the 'gay cake' situation occurred there was a distinct lack of these libertarian arguments being made on the left.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Feb 2022 2.08pm)

A fantastic example. But the Left are just hypocrites. Utter scum who want to control peoples lives. We are much, much, much better than they are.

Good luck to this Landlord. If he does not want to sell Babycham because it just encourages homosexuals to use the premises or clear his shelves of Guinness because of the Irish who drink it, the best of British to him. His business, his rules. And he can either sink or swim dependent on them. I salute his decision.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Hrolf The Ganger 17 Feb 22 2.19pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow so what do you suggest? Should the landlord be forced to sell certain products? That is not really the issue. He has the right. Do you feel the same way when someone like this landlord Is bullied or coerced into a decision by woke nutters? Because it seems to me that most of the motivation to take such action comes out of the fear of bad publicity and not personal ideals.
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17 Feb 22 2.19pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

so what do you suggest? Should the landlord be forced to sell certain products?

That is not really the issue. He has the right.

Do you feel the same way when someone like this landlord Is bullied or coerced into a decision by woke nutters? Because it seems to me that most of the motivation to take such action comes out of the fear of bad publicity and not personal ideals.

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Stirlingsays 17 Feb 22 2.35pm
Originally posted by Matov A fantastic example. But the Left are just hypocrites. Utter scum who want to control peoples lives. We are much, much, much better than they are. Good luck to this Landlord. If he does not want to sell Babycham because it just encourages homosexuals to use the premises or clear his shelves of Guinness because of the Irish who drink it, the best of British to him. His business, his rules. And he can either sink or swim dependent on them. I salute his decision. During the recent BLM demonstrations in the UK Anthony Joshua (the boxer, to those who don't know) spoke at one of them and said that people should support 'black businesses'. He didn't get any criticism in the press for this apparent identity politics. We know what would have happened if a white boxer had said something similar for 'white businesses'. The funny thing is that I thought that a business wasn't allowed to actually be a 'white' or 'black' business.....but it's certainly true that some businesses will be attacked (for example religious shops) for ideological reasons while others (black dating sites) won't be. Here's an example of a UK black dating site. [Link] You won't find a UK white dating site that's accepted...I found one but it's focused on Europe and has been banned on Youtube and Google. I'm of the view that all should be allowed. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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17 Feb 22 2.35pm

Originally posted by Matov

A fantastic example. But the Left are just hypocrites. Utter scum who want to control peoples lives. We are much, much, much better than they are.

During the recent BLM demonstrations in the UK Anthony Joshua (the boxer, to those who don't know) spoke at one of them and said that people should support 'black businesses'. He didn't get any criticism in the press for this apparent identity politics. We know what would have happened if a white boxer had said something similar for 'white businesses'.

The funny thing is that I thought that a business wasn't allowed to actually be a 'white' or 'black' business.....but it's certainly true that some businesses will be attacked (for example religious shops) for ideological reasons while others (black dating sites) won't be.

Here's an example of a UK black dating site.

[Link]

You won't find a UK white dating site that's accepted...I found one but it's focused on Europe and has been banned on Youtube and Google.

I'm of the view that all should be allowed.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Feb 22 3.26pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Why does it? Have you ever visited the pub or have any plans to? Assuming the answer is no, how on earth have you reached a point where the drinks selection at a pub in another part of the country, makes you 'molten with anger'? Surely a pub landlord has the right to serve whatever drinks he wants? and you as the consumer have the right to go there or not go there based on that selection. If people are not happy with what he's done, the pub will soon go bust. What else are you expecting? Pubs being mandated to serve certain products? These articles are all so pathetic, and even more pathetic is people who get convinced that what a pub they don't go to serves people to drink is important. For avoidance of doubt my molten anger stretches beyond the policy of the Public House. All this 'Woke', pernicious ideology has me spitting out fury like a hail of machine gun fire. Edited by Willo (17 Feb 2022 3.29pm)
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South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Feb 22 3.26pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Why does it? Have you ever visited the pub or have any plans to?

Assuming the answer is no, how on earth have you reached a point where the drinks selection at a pub in another part of the country, makes you 'molten with anger'?

Surely a pub landlord has the right to serve whatever drinks he wants? and you as the consumer have the right to go there or not go there based on that selection.

If people are not happy with what he's done, the pub will soon go bust. What else are you expecting? Pubs being mandated to serve certain products?

These articles are all so pathetic, and even more pathetic is people who get convinced that what a pub they don't go to serves people to drink is important.

For avoidance of doubt my molten anger stretches beyond the policy of the Public House.

All this 'Woke', pernicious ideology has me spitting out fury like a hail of machine gun fire.

Edited by Willo (17 Feb 2022 3.29pm)

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Feb 22 3.32pm
Originally posted by Willo For avoidance of doubt my molten anger stretches beyond the policy of the Public House. All this 'Woke', pernicious ideology has me spitting out fury like a hail of machine gun fire. Edited by Willo (17 Feb 2022 3.29pm) I would look at it as a publicity stunt that has worked. He's got nationwide coverage for not serving, what are, pretty sh1tty drinks: we are even discussing it here! Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Feb 22 3.32pm

Originally posted by Willo

For avoidance of doubt my molten anger stretches beyond the policy of the Public House.

All this 'Woke', pernicious ideology has me spitting out fury like a hail of machine gun fire.

Edited by Willo (17 Feb 2022 3.29pm)

I would look at it as a publicity stunt that has worked. He's got nationwide coverage for not serving, what are, pretty sh1tty drinks: we are even discussing it here!

Red and Blue Army!

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Feb 22 3.35pm
Originally posted by Willo For avoidance of doubt my molten anger stretches beyond the policy of the Public House. All this 'Woke', pernicious ideology has me spitting out fury like a hail of machine gun fire. Edited by Willo (17 Feb 2022 3.29pm) I'd be careful Willo! It looks as though the woke movement is now demanding a reduction in the usage of metaphors and similes, you could find yourself in hot water, much like an..... Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Feb 22 3.35pm

Originally posted by Willo

For avoidance of doubt my molten anger stretches beyond the policy of the Public House.

All this 'Woke', pernicious ideology has me spitting out fury like a hail of machine gun fire.

Edited by Willo (17 Feb 2022 3.29pm)

I'd be careful Willo!

It looks as though the woke movement is now demanding a reduction in the usage of metaphors and similes, you could find yourself in hot water, much like an.....

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Feb 22 3.42pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 I'd be careful Willo! It looks as though the woke movement is now demanding a reduction in the usage of metaphors and similes, you could find yourself in hot water, much like an..... Not forgetting darned obsessing over pronouns. Often my computer screen is in grave danger of being spattered with spittle-flecked fury on reading about some addition to the pernicious ideology. Edited by Willo (17 Feb 2022 3.45pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Feb 22 3.42pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I'd be careful Willo!

It looks as though the woke movement is now demanding a reduction in the usage of metaphors and similes, you could find yourself in hot water, much like an.....

Not forgetting darned obsessing over pronouns.

Often my computer screen is in grave danger of being spattered with spittle-flecked fury on reading about some addition to the pernicious ideology.

Edited by Willo (17 Feb 2022 3.45pm)

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