He certainly didn't do that. I was surprised with what he was telling me, but actually think he was operating by the letter at the time (unless I'm mistaken): [Link]

"And they may well be making a beeline for Dubai, where temperatures hover around 30C all through the Christmas period. Last Thursday, the British government announced that the city (and the rest of the United Arab Emirates) would be added to the country’s list of quarantine-free travel destinations. As of Saturday November 14, passengers arriving into the UK from Dubai will no longer need to self-isolate for 14 days – making the prospect of that holiday abroad much more enticing indeed."

"Dubai is the notable exception: currently, there is no mandatory self-isolation period on arrival. All travellers have to do is fill out this ‘health declaration’ form, provide valid health insurance, and bring a negative test result from within four days of arrival."

No very minimal restrictions right up until basically the beginning of this year even though there are plenty of covid cases there too.

Edited by BlueJay (25 Jan 2021 7.53pm)

Sure, so would you have banned sex? Would you have run a campaign though the press aimed at guilting those who had sex?

There should be a line over which the state should fear to tread...It's been said many times, this isn't the black death and in my view the response to it has been far more damaging.

No society in history has ever locked up its young and healthy.

The WHO estimate that roughly 1.35 million people die annually from traffic accidents. And even disregarding the annual figure, there have been far more deaths from driving than will ever be the case from this aliment yet the deaths from driving continue decade by decade as accepted risk....and will continue forward as accepted risk.

So while I support the creation of vaccines in reducing death amongst the vulnerable the reality of this illness was that regardless of our reactions with lockdown or vaccines. It would have eventually faded into the general background of coronaviruses and killed that much less.....all that's probably happened is that process was delayed more further.

I would agree that irresponsible behavior by an individual is bad....we both accept that. The question is at what level should the state be controlling your behaviour.

Should the state stop selling alcohol because it results in death and illness? Should the state ban people swimming in the ocean because a certain number will drown or get swept away.

I suppose it comes down the old 'nanny state' question. And the unfortunate reality of this pandemic is that the western populations are both compliant, trusting and docile when it comes to their liberties and personally I regard that as very much of a negative.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jan 2021 8.28pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

By the way, do feel free to provide the figures for a 10 month period re AIDS deaths or car accidents. I am sure they are on the scale of the current pandemic

Knowingly infecting someone with a deadly disease is classed as the reckless inflicting of grievous bodily harm. Casually encouraging people to put others at risk is perhaps not covered by the law but is still extremely reckless.

And if no one ever goes out again there will be no deaths from Covid, flu or many other things. How much longer is acceptable or economically viable? The knock on effect in terms of mental health issues and job losses will be huge as it is.

Quite staggering how you still don’t think you’re wrong on this. Never known one person to be quite so demonstrably wrong on so many things yet utterly convinced he’s right.

Toby Young syndrome.

Commentary utterly devoid of an argument.

DanH syndrome.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)