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Hudsoneagle Flag 12 Oct 20 11.57am Send a Private Message to Hudsoneagle Add Hudsoneagle as a friend

I think it’s clear by now that there isn’t a single person regularly posting that can claim to be ITK. I would also go as far to say that if posters were acting in good faith and simply passing on information then their source of that information is equally incapable of claiming to being ITK.

Im not sure we need to ask people if they are ITK. We should all know better than that by now.

Clyne or no Clyne...it’s one of those transfers that will perhaps little to no impact on our season either way.

 

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Petereagle Flag Brockley 12 Oct 20 12.03pm Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

I think it’s clear by now that there isn’t a single person regularly posting that can claim to be ITK. I would also go as far to say that if posters were acting in good faith and simply passing on information then their source of that information is equally incapable of claiming to being ITK.

Im not sure we need to ask people if they are ITK. We should all know better than that by now.

Clyne or no Clyne...it’s one of those transfers that will perhaps little to no impact on our season either way.

Wise words. It's all just opinions. Or rumours.

 

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Petereagle Flag Brockley 12 Oct 20 12.08pm Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

It was Neil Warnock who gave him his debut for our club.
Nigel Adkins signed him for Southampton.

I recall Clyne who had a real desire to make foraging runs forward and attack but he was also a good one-on-one defender.His marking skills were impressive.This however is my observation from quite a few years ago.


I was at the match when Clyne made his debut and it was immediately apparent that he had something special.

 

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palace chick Flag South Croydon 12 Oct 20 12.16pm Send a Private Message to palace chick Add palace chick as a friend

Originally posted by Petereagle


I was at the match when Clyne made his debut and it was immediately apparent that he had something special.

Agreed, I thought like Sampson at left back he is the best right back we have had. However, injuries and issues have hampered him. I hope if signed we can get 3 or 4 great years out of him - I’m perhaps more hopeful then expecting this?

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Oct 20 12.29pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

It was Neil Warnock who gave him his debut for our club.
Nigel Adkins signed him for Southampton.

I recall Clyne who had a real desire to make foraging runs forward and attack but he was also a good one-on-one defender.His marking skills were impressive.This however is my observation from quite a few years ago.

Come on Willo, I did know him really. If anything you should have derided me for my fairweather knowledge, or lack thereof, of the glorious and illustrious Eagles. But thanks for the info. I remember Clyne as a youngster - before all the silly tattoos and big time Charlie lifestyle. He was great and an asset to Liverpool too. He's not the same player but suspect he could act as cover for Ward. I also suspect we are probably the best fit for him personally.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Oct 20 12.48pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Come on Willo, I did know him really. If anything you should have derided me for my fairweather knowledge, or lack thereof, of the glorious and illustrious Eagles. But thanks for the info. I remember Clyne as a youngster - before all the silly tattoos and big time Charlie lifestyle. He was great and an asset to Liverpool too. He's not the same player but suspect he could act as cover for Ward. I also suspect we are probably the best fit for him personally.

I made the assumption that your comment could be filed under 'Tongue in cheek' !

Regards Clyne, I heard many years ago that he had an affinity for Chelsea FC.

 

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Petereagle Flag Brockley 12 Oct 20 1.12pm Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by palace chick

Agreed, I thought like Sampson at left back he is the best right back we have had. However, injuries and issues have hampered him. I hope if signed we can get 3 or 4 great years out of him - I’m perhaps more hopeful then expecting this?

Unfortunately if 'rumours are to be believed' we are not now signing him, and another rumour suggests we are looking at signing an Argentinian RB on a free, released by Brighton? If this guy could provide cover for Ward for a few months until Ferguson is up to speed, that would be fine by me?

 

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Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 12 Oct 20 10.36pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

With the greatest of respect, I had the decency to provide a considered and respectful response whilst being somewhat regretful that I entered the debate.

In the final analysis I am not someone who seeks to give the impression of any superiority and despite brickbats I always seek to respond with dignity and humility.

I really believe that the debate should return to 'Nathaniel Clyne' and not be side-tracked by matters outside the parameters of the subject matter.

In this respect it is probably judicious that I refrain from passing any comment on so called 'Targets' on HOL in the manner which I did, resulting in the debate disintegrating into personal vilification.

Edited by Willo (12 Oct 2020 9.04am)


So sadly you don’t have the decency to give a straight answer, despite being given the opportunity to do so on numerous occasions.

Is it really soooo hard for you to bring yourself to admit you were just expressing an opinion and nothing more?!

No one has suggested there is any ‘superiority’ by being ITK, it is only ever YOU who refers to it as such. It is however important when someone makes an ‘absolute statement’ about something to establish upon what basis that statement is made i.e. is it just an opinion or is it based on a known fact or some other inside knowledge. If someone is in the know it puts a completely different context on the information supplied, as opposed to someone simply expressing an opinion.....Hence my perfectly reasonable question in response to your statement about the signing of Benrahma.

You have now completely avoided the issue three times and however often you say ‘With the greatest of respect’ you repeatedly demonstrate the complete opposite in your refusal to say which one it is. I haven’t asked for a source or for any other details whatsoever, merely to understand either way.

You now express a desire to return the conversation to Clyne with the usual qualification that you will no longer be passing any further comment on the subject you have been called out on (Quelle Surprise!) This again shows nothing but utter contempt for those genuinely wondering on what basis you made the original statement.

What ever the outcome with Benrahma, one can only conclude from your continued reluctance to give an answer, that you are most definitely NOT in the know and were merely expressing an opinion but, for whatever reason, cannot bring yourself to say so.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Oct 20 11.33pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber


So sadly you don’t have the decency to give a straight answer, despite being given the opportunity to do so on numerous occasions.

Is it really soooo hard for you to bring yourself to admit you were just expressing an opinion and nothing more?!

No one has suggested there is any ‘superiority’ by being ITK, it is only ever YOU who refers to it as such. It is however important when someone makes an ‘absolute statement’ about something to establish upon what basis that statement is made i.e. is it just an opinion or is it based on a known fact or some other inside knowledge. If someone is in the know it puts a completely different context on the information supplied, as opposed to someone simply expressing an opinion.....Hence my perfectly reasonable question in response to your statement about the signing of Benrahma.

You have now completely avoided the issue three times and however often you say ‘With the greatest of respect’ you repeatedly demonstrate the complete opposite in your refusal to say which one it is. I haven’t asked for a source or for any other details whatsoever, merely to understand either way.

You now express a desire to return the conversation to Clyne with the usual qualification that you will no longer be passing any further comment on the subject you have been called out on (Quelle Surprise!) This again shows nothing but utter contempt for those genuinely wondering on what basis you made the original statement.

What ever the outcome with Benrahma, one can only conclude from your continued reluctance to give an answer, that you are most definitely NOT in the know and were merely expressing an opinion but, for whatever reason, cannot bring yourself to say so.

With the greatest of respect I do NOT treat fellow posters with contempt and my ripostes are dignified and respectful in spite of the fact that I have had to endure the type of ordure displayed in your post.

I am fascinated as to why there is incessant intrigue as to whether I am 'ITK' or not and such invective rhetoric only serves to deflect the debate away from the subject matter which I don't believe is in the interests of HOL.
Given that others are not required to provide the basis for their statements, it is rather irksome that I am singled out for treatment in this manner.

I can only reiterate that being 'ITK' does NOT place oneself on a pantheon of greats on HOL, or indeed any such sites, accordingly I don't seek to place myself on any pedestal where vaunting superiority is high on my agenda.
I certainly do NOT seek to portray any aura of grandiloquence so I shall respectfully dismiss the charges laid at my door.

I am clearly not your cup of 'Lapsong Souchong'.

Edited by Willo (12 Oct 2020 11.47pm)

 

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OldFella Flag London 12 Oct 20 11.57pm Send a Private Message to OldFella Add OldFella as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber


So sadly you don’t have the decency to give a straight answer, despite being given the opportunity to do so on numerous occasions.

Is it really soooo hard for you to bring yourself to admit you were just expressing an opinion and nothing more?!

No one has suggested there is any ‘superiority’ by being ITK, it is only ever YOU who refers to it as such. It is however important when someone makes an ‘absolute statement’ about something to establish upon what basis that statement is made i.e. is it just an opinion or is it based on a known fact or some other inside knowledge. If someone is in the know it puts a completely different context on the information supplied, as opposed to someone simply expressing an opinion.....Hence my perfectly reasonable question in response to your statement about the signing of Benrahma.

You have now completely avoided the issue three times and however often you say ‘With the greatest of respect’ you repeatedly demonstrate the complete opposite in your refusal to say which one it is. I haven’t asked for a source or for any other details whatsoever, merely to understand either way.

You now express a desire to return the conversation to Clyne with the usual qualification that you will no longer be passing any further comment on the subject you have been called out on (Quelle Surprise!) This again shows nothing but utter contempt for those genuinely wondering on what basis you made the original statement.

What ever the outcome with Benrahma, one can only conclude from your continued reluctance to give an answer, that you are most definitely NOT in the know and were merely expressing an opinion but, for whatever reason, cannot bring yourself to say so.

Phil's Barber...sorry to tell you, you've got issues mate : )

Willo has made decent and reasonably well informed comments, I'd say. You come across as somewhere between a crazy stalker and someone who secretly wants to get a room with him. Bizarre


 


Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..

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Ecopalace Flag Wickham 13 Oct 20 7.10am Send a Private Message to Ecopalace Add Ecopalace as a friend

Originally posted by OldFella

Phil's Barber...sorry to tell you, you've got issues mate : )

Willo has made decent and reasonably well informed comments, I'd say. You come across as somewhere between a crazy stalker and someone who secretly wants to get a room with him. Bizarre


Completley agree. This fascination with Willo is scarey. The mods made it very clear to focus on the football not the person, why they don't step in to protect Willo is beyond me. Willo would be greatly missed on this forum if this bullying or obsession caused him to walk. Willo, ignore them and keep posting, there are many that really enjoy what you bring yo this forum.

 

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EddieMac Flag 13 Oct 20 8.15am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by OldFella

Phil's Barber...sorry to tell you, you've got issues mate : )

Willo has made decent and reasonably well informed comments, I'd say. You come across as somewhere between a crazy stalker and someone who secretly wants to get a room with him. Bizarre


Bizarre to say the least.

 

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