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Hudsoneagle 12 Oct 20 11.57am | |
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I think it’s clear by now that there isn’t a single person regularly posting that can claim to be ITK. I would also go as far to say that if posters were acting in good faith and simply passing on information then their source of that information is equally incapable of claiming to being ITK. Im not sure we need to ask people if they are ITK. We should all know better than that by now. Clyne or no Clyne...it’s one of those transfers that will perhaps little to no impact on our season either way.
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Petereagle Brockley 12 Oct 20 12.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Hudsoneagle
I think it’s clear by now that there isn’t a single person regularly posting that can claim to be ITK. I would also go as far to say that if posters were acting in good faith and simply passing on information then their source of that information is equally incapable of claiming to being ITK. Im not sure we need to ask people if they are ITK. We should all know better than that by now. Clyne or no Clyne...it’s one of those transfers that will perhaps little to no impact on our season either way. Wise words. It's all just opinions. Or rumours.
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Petereagle Brockley 12 Oct 20 12.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
It was Neil Warnock who gave him his debut for our club. I recall Clyne who had a real desire to make foraging runs forward and attack but he was also a good one-on-one defender.His marking skills were impressive.This however is my observation from quite a few years ago.
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palace chick South Croydon 12 Oct 20 12.16pm | |
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Originally posted by Petereagle
Agreed, I thought like Sampson at left back he is the best right back we have had. However, injuries and issues have hampered him. I hope if signed we can get 3 or 4 great years out of him - I’m perhaps more hopeful then expecting this?
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Oct 20 12.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
It was Neil Warnock who gave him his debut for our club. I recall Clyne who had a real desire to make foraging runs forward and attack but he was also a good one-on-one defender.His marking skills were impressive.This however is my observation from quite a few years ago. Come on Willo, I did know him really. If anything you should have derided me for my fairweather knowledge, or lack thereof, of the glorious and illustrious Eagles. But thanks for the info. I remember Clyne as a youngster - before all the silly tattoos and big time Charlie lifestyle. He was great and an asset to Liverpool too. He's not the same player but suspect he could act as cover for Ward. I also suspect we are probably the best fit for him personally.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Oct 20 12.48pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Come on Willo, I did know him really. If anything you should have derided me for my fairweather knowledge, or lack thereof, of the glorious and illustrious Eagles. But thanks for the info. I remember Clyne as a youngster - before all the silly tattoos and big time Charlie lifestyle. He was great and an asset to Liverpool too. He's not the same player but suspect he could act as cover for Ward. I also suspect we are probably the best fit for him personally. I made the assumption that your comment could be filed under 'Tongue in cheek' ! Regards Clyne, I heard many years ago that he had an affinity for Chelsea FC.
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Petereagle Brockley 12 Oct 20 1.12pm | |
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Originally posted by palace chick
Agreed, I thought like Sampson at left back he is the best right back we have had. However, injuries and issues have hampered him. I hope if signed we can get 3 or 4 great years out of him - I’m perhaps more hopeful then expecting this? Unfortunately if 'rumours are to be believed' we are not now signing him, and another rumour suggests we are looking at signing an Argentinian RB on a free, released by Brighton? If this guy could provide cover for Ward for a few months until Ferguson is up to speed, that would be fine by me?
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Phil’s Barber Crowborough 12 Oct 20 10.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
With the greatest of respect, I had the decency to provide a considered and respectful response whilst being somewhat regretful that I entered the debate. In the final analysis I am not someone who seeks to give the impression of any superiority and despite brickbats I always seek to respond with dignity and humility. I really believe that the debate should return to 'Nathaniel Clyne' and not be side-tracked by matters outside the parameters of the subject matter. Edited by Willo (12 Oct 2020 9.04am)
Is it really soooo hard for you to bring yourself to admit you were just expressing an opinion and nothing more?! No one has suggested there is any ‘superiority’ by being ITK, it is only ever YOU who refers to it as such. It is however important when someone makes an ‘absolute statement’ about something to establish upon what basis that statement is made i.e. is it just an opinion or is it based on a known fact or some other inside knowledge. If someone is in the know it puts a completely different context on the information supplied, as opposed to someone simply expressing an opinion.....Hence my perfectly reasonable question in response to your statement about the signing of Benrahma. You have now completely avoided the issue three times and however often you say ‘With the greatest of respect’ you repeatedly demonstrate the complete opposite in your refusal to say which one it is. I haven’t asked for a source or for any other details whatsoever, merely to understand either way. You now express a desire to return the conversation to Clyne with the usual qualification that you will no longer be passing any further comment on the subject you have been called out on (Quelle Surprise!) This again shows nothing but utter contempt for those genuinely wondering on what basis you made the original statement. What ever the outcome with Benrahma, one can only conclude from your continued reluctance to give an answer, that you are most definitely NOT in the know and were merely expressing an opinion but, for whatever reason, cannot bring yourself to say so.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Oct 20 11.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Phil’s Barber
Is it really soooo hard for you to bring yourself to admit you were just expressing an opinion and nothing more?! No one has suggested there is any ‘superiority’ by being ITK, it is only ever YOU who refers to it as such. It is however important when someone makes an ‘absolute statement’ about something to establish upon what basis that statement is made i.e. is it just an opinion or is it based on a known fact or some other inside knowledge. If someone is in the know it puts a completely different context on the information supplied, as opposed to someone simply expressing an opinion.....Hence my perfectly reasonable question in response to your statement about the signing of Benrahma. You have now completely avoided the issue three times and however often you say ‘With the greatest of respect’ you repeatedly demonstrate the complete opposite in your refusal to say which one it is. I haven’t asked for a source or for any other details whatsoever, merely to understand either way. You now express a desire to return the conversation to Clyne with the usual qualification that you will no longer be passing any further comment on the subject you have been called out on (Quelle Surprise!) This again shows nothing but utter contempt for those genuinely wondering on what basis you made the original statement. What ever the outcome with Benrahma, one can only conclude from your continued reluctance to give an answer, that you are most definitely NOT in the know and were merely expressing an opinion but, for whatever reason, cannot bring yourself to say so. With the greatest of respect I do NOT treat fellow posters with contempt and my ripostes are dignified and respectful in spite of the fact that I have had to endure the type of ordure displayed in your post. I am fascinated as to why there is incessant intrigue as to whether I am 'ITK' or not and such invective rhetoric only serves to deflect the debate away from the subject matter which I don't believe is in the interests of HOL. I can only reiterate that being 'ITK' does NOT place oneself on a pantheon of greats on HOL, or indeed any such sites, accordingly I don't seek to place myself on any pedestal where vaunting superiority is high on my agenda. I am clearly not your cup of 'Lapsong Souchong'. Edited by Willo (12 Oct 2020 11.47pm)
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OldFella London 12 Oct 20 11.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Phil’s Barber
Is it really soooo hard for you to bring yourself to admit you were just expressing an opinion and nothing more?! No one has suggested there is any ‘superiority’ by being ITK, it is only ever YOU who refers to it as such. It is however important when someone makes an ‘absolute statement’ about something to establish upon what basis that statement is made i.e. is it just an opinion or is it based on a known fact or some other inside knowledge. If someone is in the know it puts a completely different context on the information supplied, as opposed to someone simply expressing an opinion.....Hence my perfectly reasonable question in response to your statement about the signing of Benrahma. You have now completely avoided the issue three times and however often you say ‘With the greatest of respect’ you repeatedly demonstrate the complete opposite in your refusal to say which one it is. I haven’t asked for a source or for any other details whatsoever, merely to understand either way. You now express a desire to return the conversation to Clyne with the usual qualification that you will no longer be passing any further comment on the subject you have been called out on (Quelle Surprise!) This again shows nothing but utter contempt for those genuinely wondering on what basis you made the original statement. What ever the outcome with Benrahma, one can only conclude from your continued reluctance to give an answer, that you are most definitely NOT in the know and were merely expressing an opinion but, for whatever reason, cannot bring yourself to say so. Phil's Barber...sorry to tell you, you've got issues mate : ) Willo has made decent and reasonably well informed comments, I'd say. You come across as somewhere between a crazy stalker and someone who secretly wants to get a room with him. Bizarre
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Ecopalace Wickham 13 Oct 20 7.10am | |
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Originally posted by OldFella
Phil's Barber...sorry to tell you, you've got issues mate : ) Willo has made decent and reasonably well informed comments, I'd say. You come across as somewhere between a crazy stalker and someone who secretly wants to get a room with him. Bizarre Completley agree. This fascination with Willo is scarey. The mods made it very clear to focus on the football not the person, why they don't step in to protect Willo is beyond me. Willo would be greatly missed on this forum if this bullying or obsession caused him to walk. Willo, ignore them and keep posting, there are many that really enjoy what you bring yo this forum.
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EddieMac 13 Oct 20 8.15am | |
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Originally posted by OldFella
Phil's Barber...sorry to tell you, you've got issues mate : ) Willo has made decent and reasonably well informed comments, I'd say. You come across as somewhere between a crazy stalker and someone who secretly wants to get a room with him. Bizarre Bizarre to say the least.
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