This is really important actually. It matters to me that regardless of whether we've won, lost or drawn, Hodgson carries himself (and represents the club) correctly.

He speaks in an straight, articulate, sensible fashion no matter what, and that stands out for me in an age where it seems like every second person with any kind of public attention whatsoever is only capable of making a divisive, inarticulate, mad noise.

This thread should be called "Hodgson has to go at the end of the season".

Changing managers now would be a mistake. For all of his annoying traits and decisions, we need to stick with Roy for the time being. I am fairly confident he will once again guide us to safety.

The simple fact is that we are playing better than earlier in the season, now dont get me wrong, thats not hard as we were absolutely awful in some games like Wolves first time and Newcastle.

When we turned over Man City and Wolves, there was some real positivity about the place. Dont forget that Watford are flying high this year and it is sadly no disgrace to ship 6 points to them, and they had the luck in both games despite the OG.

Going away from home to Liverpool ironically almost represents a better chance at success than home to Watford.

The next manager, whoever he is, simply has to resolve our woeful home record and get some goals going in.

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When I take a lot of time to trek over to Selhurst every other Saturday and spend a fortune to watch someone who's completely set in their ways make the same mistakes week in week out, my opinion of them is not quite as generous. He may be a nice guy, but at the moment its not enjoyable to be a palace fan, and the blame for that lays squarely on him.

But why does the blame lay solely on Hodgson? He didn't make the ball go between Jimmy Mac's legs; he didn't make Tompkins not track Cathcart, etc etc. The players have to step up.

In most games we have enough opportunities to not get beat let alone win. It's his game plan and tactics that are putting the team in that position but they aren't finishing. It's all fine margins and this season nothing has quite gone for us.

He's not completely blameless and sometimes his decisions are baffling and frustrating but he knows that playing his way over the course of a season will see us stay up.

It does seem a wasted opportunity that we haven't been able to push on for a top ten place but this year so far we've been on the wrong side of the fine margin.

Here's my view.

Roy sets the team up, plays an active part in training and come match day that group of players are ready to compete and know what they have to do.

Outside of a core of the starting eleven plus one or two others, he hasn't got too many options. We have lacked game changers on the bench because the squad is light on quality. Hence the reluctance to use subs, although I think he could change things at least to give the opposition a different player to deal with.

But you can't hold him responsible for Ward and Sakho missing free headers - potential 4 more points. Or Zaha unable to score one on one's - point lost last Saturday - and there have been others. The stats show - and we can see for ourselves - that chance creation is not an issue but the finishing.

Unless I'm mistaken, after the Solanke deal fell through we were told there were five strikers on our wanted list. Where are they ? Or is the return of Benteke mean that we aren't looking any more ?

At Selhurst this season there have been two abject performances - Southampton and Chelsea. We got what we deserved from those games.

So yes, Roy's stats don't look great but they do not reflect the overall performance of the players.

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Is the correct response.