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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Nov 17 11.36am
Originally posted by topcat Just reading NSC and it seems that Willo is actually correct. It is just the fault of the Palace fans (all of them, not a tiny minority) and brighton are not at fault at all. I stand corrected. Thank you for putting words into my mouth. I never advocated that BHA were blameless at all, in fact I actually mentioned that if there is a case to answer for both the Police and BHA then this should be dealt with by the relevant authorities.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Nov 17 11.36am

Originally posted by topcat

Just reading NSC and it seems that Willo is actually correct. It is just the fault of the Palace fans (all of them, not a tiny minority) and brighton are not at fault at all.

I stand corrected.

Thank you for putting words into my mouth.

I never advocated that BHA were blameless at all, in fact I actually mentioned that if there is a case to answer for both the Police and BHA then this should be dealt with by the relevant authorities.

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Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 30 Nov 17 11.37am
Originally posted by chateauferret Not quite sure how impartial NSC might be... So Michaela et al are lying then. Zat right? TC isn't being serious Lend me a Tenor 31 May to 3 June 2017 John McIntosh Arts Centre London Oratory School SW6 1RX with Superfly in the chorus [Link]
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Superfly

The sun always shines in Catford 30 Nov 17 11.37am

Originally posted by chateauferret

Not quite sure how impartial NSC might be...

So Michaela et al are lying then. Zat right?

TC isn't being serious

Lend me a Tenor

31 May to 3 June 2017

John McIntosh Arts Centre
London Oratory School
SW6 1RX

with Superfly in the chorus
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Ketteridge Brighton 30 Nov 17 11.39am
Originally posted by bexleydave Of course not, but it's almost impossible to reconcile someone walking into the ground minutes before kick off, apparently without a care in the world, and Michaela's account, is it not? That would suggest that everything was absolutely fine, right up until kick off, which doesn't accord with what's been reported. If I have have it right, Aquickgame turned up in a taxi by himself while Michaela was escoretd in a large group from the train station. So a large group arriving to gether would have caused a build up of supporters all trying to get in at the same time.I think Michaela was in a group escorted from the town centre to Brighton station then from Falmer to the ground. It does beg the question what time the police realised this group were not going to get to the ground on time and did they do anything to delay kick off. Sorry realise this has already been responded to now Edited by Ketteridge (30 Nov 2017 11.45am) One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A
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Ketteridge

Brighton 30 Nov 17 11.39am

Originally posted by bexleydave

Of course not, but it's almost impossible to reconcile someone walking into the ground minutes before kick off, apparently without a care in the world, and Michaela's account, is it not? That would suggest that everything was absolutely fine, right up until kick off, which doesn't accord with what's been reported.

If I have have it right, Aquickgame turned up in a taxi by himself while Michaela was escoretd in a large group from the train station. So a large group arriving to gether would have caused a build up of supporters all trying to get in at the same time.I think Michaela was in a group escorted from the town centre to Brighton station then from Falmer to the ground. It does beg the question what time the police realised this group were not going to get to the ground on time and did they do anything to delay kick off.
Sorry realise this has already been responded to now

Edited by Ketteridge (30 Nov 2017 11.45am)

One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A

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jeeagles 30 Nov 17 11.42am
That's just typical Brighton fans for you. They messed up something very simple because they couldn't handle a small group of unruly school kids then cast us all as scum and try and make a big drama about it. So much for their liberal bohemian attitudes. Probably the same type of people who preach about why we should punish criminal little s*s because the "had a hard upbringing" or "are from a bad area". Just goes to show what pompous hypocritical t*s they all are. This was all reasonably foreseeable and should have been easy to manage. I don't condone bad behaviour, but you have to realise it exists.
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jeeagles

30 Nov 17 11.42am

That's just typical Brighton fans for you.
They messed up something very simple because they couldn't handle a small group of unruly school kids then cast us all as scum and try and make a big drama about it.

So much for their liberal bohemian attitudes.

Probably the same type of people who preach about why we should punish criminal little s***s because the "had a hard upbringing" or "are from a bad area".

Just goes to show what pompous hypocritical t***s they all are.

This was all reasonably foreseeable and should have been easy to manage. I don't condone bad behaviour, but you have to realise it exists.

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Dan1994 Wallington 30 Nov 17 11.52am
Originally posted by jeeagles That's just typical Brighton fans for you. They messed up something very simple because they couldn't handle a small group of unruly school kids then cast us all as scum and try and make a big drama about it. So much for their liberal bohemian attitudes. Probably the same type of people who preach about why we should punish criminal little s*s because the "had a hard upbringing" or "are from a bad area". Just goes to show what pompous hypocritical ts they all are. This was all reasonably foreseeable and should have been easy to manage. I don't condone bad behaviour, but you have to realise it exists. They're wers some of them. One wished it had been Hillsborough 2.0. examples of racism and other w*ery. But of course, their reputation as an 'accepting' city makes them the darlings of certain media. [Link]
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Dan1994

Wallington 30 Nov 17 11.52am

Originally posted by jeeagles

So much for their liberal bohemian attitudes.

Probably the same type of people who preach about why we should punish criminal little s***s because the "had a hard upbringing" or "are from a bad area".

Just goes to show what pompous hypocritical t***s they all are.

This was all reasonably foreseeable and should have been easy to manage. I don't condone bad behaviour, but you have to realise it exists.

They're w***ers some of them. One wished it had been Hillsborough 2.0. examples of racism and other w***ery. But of course, their reputation as an 'accepting' city makes them the darlings of certain media.

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Beastie 30 Nov 17 12.40pm
Originally posted by jeeagles That's just typical Brighton fans for you. They messed up something very simple because they couldn't handle a small group of unruly school kids then cast us all as scum and try and make a big drama about it. So much for their liberal bohemian attitudes. Probably the same type of people who preach about why we should punish criminal little s*s because the "had a hard upbringing" or "are from a bad area". Just goes to show what pompous hypocritical t*s they all are. This was all reasonably foreseeable and should have been easy to manage. I don't condone bad behaviour, but you have to realise it exists. This spot on.
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Beastie

30 Nov 17 12.40pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

So much for their liberal bohemian attitudes.

Probably the same type of people who preach about why we should punish criminal little s***s because the "had a hard upbringing" or "are from a bad area".

Just goes to show what pompous hypocritical t***s they all are.

This was all reasonably foreseeable and should have been easy to manage. I don't condone bad behaviour, but you have to realise it exists.

This spot on.

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Direwolf Lincoln 30 Nov 17 1.02pm
Originally posted by aquickgame2 What do you mean "supposedly"...you think im telling porkies. Oh dear - you might have proved Bexley Dave to be wrong. No doubt a fulsome apology will be forthcoming.
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Direwolf

Lincoln 30 Nov 17 1.02pm

Originally posted by aquickgame2

What do you mean "supposedly"...you think im telling porkies.

Oh dear - you might have proved Bexley Dave to be wrong. No doubt a fulsome apology will be forthcoming.

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Michaelawt85 Bexley 30 Nov 17 1.06pm
Originally posted by Ketteridge If I have have it right, Aquickgame turned up in a taxi by himself while Michaela was escoretd in a large group from the train station. So a large group arriving to gether would have caused a build up of supporters all trying to get in at the same time.I think Michaela was in a group escorted from the town centre to Brighton station then from Falmer to the ground. It does beg the question what time the police realised this group were not going to get to the ground on time and did they do anything to delay kick off. Sorry realise this has already been responded to now Edited by Ketteridge (30 Nov 2017 11.45am) It was apparent to all of us we would be late. I have a photo I took inside Brighton station in a que to get on the train to falmer and that was taken at 19.20hrs. We arrived at falmer according to my camera at 19.38 and the ground was well in the distance with none of us moving anywhere When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC
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Michaelawt85

Bexley 30 Nov 17 1.06pm

Originally posted by Ketteridge

Edited by Ketteridge (30 Nov 2017 11.45am)

It was apparent to all of us we would be late. I have a photo I took inside Brighton station in a que to get on the train to falmer and that was taken at 19.20hrs. We arrived at falmer according to my camera at 19.38 and the ground was well in the distance with none of us moving anywhere

When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Nov 17 1.22pm
Michaela, make sure you write to the FSF. Even better coming from a female, especially the heavy handed cr&p. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 30 Nov 17 1.22pm

Michaela, make sure you write to the FSF. Even better coming from a female, especially the heavy handed cr&p.

COYP

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Homousbrigade 30 Nov 17 1.24pm
Originally posted by jeeagles That's just typical Brighton fans for you. They messed up something very simple because they couldn't handle a small group of unruly school kids then cast us all as scum and try and make a big drama about it. So much for their liberal bohemian attitudes. Probably the same type of people who preach about why we should punish criminal little s*s because the "had a hard upbringing" or "are from a bad area". Just goes to show what pompous hypocritical t*s they all are. This was all reasonably foreseeable and should have been easy to manage. I don't condone bad behaviour, but you have to realise it exists. Yes, it looks like the club weren't as prepared as they could have been for a gang of posturing scumbags without tickets rushing the gate. Maybe that's because it hasn't happened before in the 5 years since the Amex opened. I'm sure there'll be lessons learned assuming both clubs stay up ;-) I really feel for the genuine fans caught up in all this crap, and think the police didn't help matters with all their willy waving outside, but this sort of thing is usually fairly easy to avoid if you keep your head down and your gob shut for 10 minutes between getting close to the ground and getting through the turnstiles. If Palace come back to the Amex next year (as a neutral, I hope they do, and in the Premier League), then my advice would be to avoid the trains, particularly from Brighton Station if at all possible.
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Homousbrigade

30 Nov 17 1.24pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

So much for their liberal bohemian attitudes.

Probably the same type of people who preach about why we should punish criminal little s***s because the "had a hard upbringing" or "are from a bad area".

Just goes to show what pompous hypocritical t***s they all are.

This was all reasonably foreseeable and should have been easy to manage. I don't condone bad behaviour, but you have to realise it exists.

Yes, it looks like the club weren't as prepared as they could have been for a gang of posturing scumbags without tickets rushing the gate. Maybe that's because it hasn't happened before in the 5 years since the Amex opened. I'm sure there'll be lessons learned assuming both clubs stay up ;-)

I really feel for the genuine fans caught up in all this crap, and think the police didn't help matters with all their willy waving outside, but this sort of thing is usually fairly easy to avoid if you keep your head down and your gob shut for 10 minutes between getting close to the ground and getting through the turnstiles.

If Palace come back to the Amex next year (as a neutral, I hope they do, and in the Premier League), then my advice would be to avoid the trains, particularly from Brighton Station if at all possible.

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Michaelawt85 Bexley 30 Nov 17 1.24pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Michaela, make sure you write to the FSF. Even better coming from a female, especially the heavy handed cr&p. Will compose something later and attach all the photos and video I took. When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC
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Michaelawt85

Bexley 30 Nov 17 1.24pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Michaela, make sure you write to the FSF. Even better coming from a female, especially the heavy handed cr&p.

Will compose something later and attach all the photos and video I took.

When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Nov 17 1.27pm
Originally posted by Michaelawt85 Will compose something later and attach all the photos and video I took. Pre match you in a town centre pub taken over by Palace and advertised this was planned in advance? COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 30 Nov 17 1.27pm

Originally posted by Michaelawt85

Will compose something later and attach all the photos and video I took.

Pre match you in a town centre pub taken over by Palace and advertised this was planned in advance?

COYP

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