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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 19 Oct 17 11.22am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You haven't got anything right in your descriptions Nick. But you don't care because your ethics are in the gutter. You're part of the problem, not the solution. All the people you door stepped during that election should have been directed to your Hol comments to see the reality of the man selling them lies. Every thing on that checklist you have done. Look at it again.
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 Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Oct 17 11.26am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'm still waiting for an explanation as to how making a joke about Ebola is 'racist'. Does Ebola only affect black people now? I've yet to have someone prove my assertion wrong. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (19 Oct 2017 10.59am) Inappropriate racial or xenophobic humour? I suppose you heard this in the lift, by the water machine, photo copier, kettle all the time at work without a concern of any repercussions. It's not really for this bloke to decide to be Frankie Boyle with everyone in his environment below him, because that's how it was and why this kind of thing doesn't get said in most workplaces. It's inappropriate. Let's say if you were in business with one or two people and they asked you to tone down your 'humour' because your best sales rep was Nigerian and he was getting the hump with the 9 year old jokes everyday. Do you argue it's your right to be able to say what you like? Or you take on 2 graduates and the Nigerian one is uncomfortable with your 'humour.' What's your reply to your business partners?
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 Hrolf The Ganger 19 Oct 17 11.30am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Inappropriate racial or xenophobic humour? I suppose you heard this in the lift, by the water machine, photo copier, kettle all the time at work without a concern of any repercussions. It's not really for this bloke to decide to be Frankie Boyle with everyone in his environment below him, because that's how it was and why this kind of thing doesn't get said in most workplaces. It's inappropriate. Let's say if you were in business with one or two people and they asked you to tone down your 'humour' because your best sales rep was Nigerian and he was getting the hump with the 9 year old jokes everyday. Do you argue it's your right to be able to say what you like? Or you take on 2 graduates and the Nigerian one is uncomfortable with your 'humour.' What's your reply to your business partners? We are talking about this specific case and you have yet to tell me how anything that was said has anything to do with 'race'. What you are basically saying is that everyone should act like a humourless drone so they don't upset people who have a chip on their shouder.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Oct 17 11.31am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Any man taking this job is a fool. The things I've heard women say and.....nothing...Most men don't have huge chips on their shoulders.....Anyone with sense knows these are uneven and toxic situations. The race card is played for maximum effect and advantage......and like was mentioned previously Karen Brady had a relationship with a player and....nothing. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Oct 2017 10.30am) Different individuals take things differently. He didn't notice she was a stiff and he got carried away with being the centre of attention, under pressure to say something funny, which is obviously unnatural for him. As I said, if I'd said that to the new employee/graduate by the water machine I'd have walked away expecting to be hauled up for it. If it had been heard by others nearby I would've been a bit concerned that I'd be viewed as an ignorant tw&t at the very least. Therefore, it's inappropriate.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Oct 17 11.33am |
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Last night I overheard a rather well-spoken elderly chap saying words to the effect that sometimes in life one can be opportunistic for personal gain knowing the scales were tipped in one's favour. My interpretation of his viewpoint might of course be way off the mark.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 19 Oct 17 11.33am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Inappropriate racial or xenophobic humour? I suppose you heard this in the lift, by the water machine, photo copier, kettle all the time at work without a concern of any repercussions. It's not really for this bloke to decide to be Frankie Boyle with everyone in his environment below him, because that's how it was and why this kind of thing doesn't get said in most workplaces. It's inappropriate. Let's say if you were in business with one or two people and they asked you to tone down your 'humour' because your best sales rep was Nigerian and he was getting the hump with the 9 year old jokes everyday. Do you argue it's your right to be able to say what you like? Or you take on 2 graduates and the Nigerian one is uncomfortable with your 'humour.' What's your reply to your business partners? Nothing like a bit of hyperbole to sjuz things up a bit eh...lets keep things in context
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Oct 17 11.40am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
We are talking about this specific case and you have yet to tell me how anything that was said has anything to do with 'race'. What you are basically saying is that everyone should act like a humourless drone so they don't upset people who have a chip on their shouder. It's inappropriate racial humour that wasn't even funny unless you're under 9. Inappropriate, and would result in serious words if reported in professional environments. Unless you think it's appropriate that is. He could say what he wanted around me as could a lot of but I wouldn't be surprised to see him hauled in for it. If you can't judge whether the person can take it then don't is probably wise.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Oct 17 11.41am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Different individuals take things differently. He didn't notice she was a stiff and he got carried away with being the centre of attention, under pressure to say something funny, which is obviously unnatural for him. As I said, if I'd said that to the new employee/graduate by the water machine I'd have walked away expecting to be hauled up for it. If it had been heard by others nearby I would've been a bit concerned that I'd be viewed as an ignorant tw&t at the very least. Therefore, it's inappropriate. Many years a go when I was in the workplace I had just returned from holiday looking rather bronzed akin to 'Cuprinol' man. An Asian chap looked at me and said that I looked like a XXXX - with XXXX being a word which is deemed racist. He smiled as he said it, so it was clearly said as a joke in a moment of raillery and I just laughed at him considering some might have used this word to describe the chap himself. Not for a moment was I offended, saw it as inappropriate racial humour or saw it as an opportunity to take the matter further.I just found it highly amusing ! Edited by Willo (19 Oct 2017 11.42am)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 19 Oct 17 11.45am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
It's inappropriate racial humour that wasn't even funny unless you're under 9. Inappropriate, and would result in serious words if reported in professional environments. Unless you think it's appropriate that is. He could say what he wanted around me as could a lot of but I wouldn't be surprised to see him hauled in for it. If you can't judge whether the person can take it then don't is probably wise. How is it'racial'? You are not answering that key question.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Oct 17 11.46am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Many years a go when I was in the workplace I had just returned from holiday looking rather bronzed akin to 'Cuprinol' man. An Asian chap looked at me and said that I looked like a XXXX - with XXXX being a word which is deemed racist. He smiled as he said it, so it was clearly said as a joke in a moment of raillery and I just laughed at him considering some might have used this word to describe the chap himself. Not for a moment was I offended, saw it as inappropriate racial humour or saw it as an opportunity to take the matter further.I just found it highly amusing ! Edited by Willo (19 Oct 2017 11.42am) When I look at this female I doubt I'd feel comfortable saying something like 'I'm trying to catch you up.' I could with some people I know but I'd not take the chance with her. See the point? Why take the chance? He didn't have to be funny with everyone. He was a football, not the court jester. Just leave her be would've been wiser.
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| Midlands Eagle 19 Oct 17 11.49am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Last night I overheard a rather well-spoken elderly chap saying words to the effect that....... I didn't notice anyone listening to me
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Oct 17 11.54am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
How is it'racial'? You are not answering that key question. What he said can be understood to mean make sure your parents don't bring the dirty disease over here or a disease from your country behind this clean place. Saying it to a black woman regarding a Black Country was more foot in mouth than intended racism but I'd be surprised if many people didnysay they'd wished they'd never said those specific words straight afterwards. Like I said, you're not going to hear it very often. If you did you may get reprimanded or spend many lunchtimes without many invites I would've thought.
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