In a nutshell.

We won't be here much longer with these errors since extending Pardew's con tract, that's the issue here. In any organisation that's what would be in serious discussion, not how wonderful it was prior to the start of these repeated c0ck ups. Those who look backwards don't go foreward with the same repeated errors.

Sorry but the others, well Silva and Dyche, were clearly better options and would've delivered better results. Again, like with Pardew, Parish took leave of his senses. Frank charm? Star struck? Who knows, but he went against his main prerequisite of prem experience, and not only that but ''wound the clock' forward after staying it needed 'rewinding' 6 months before. This time Jordan was right, and I'm sorry but parish was epically wrong.

I remember those on here claiming how Silva wasn't fit for it because of CPFC 4-0 Hull and his face and body language that day where in reality he had worked a miracle to get them there with the worst squad in the league. It was about 3 injuries and a big defensive error that helped tip the scales that morning. And we needed to be able to break teams down at home. Recently a pro Frank poster tried justifying Frank because his 3 was actually a 5. Yep very likely to break teams down with our supposed 'wing backs' and a budget that's no more than most of the league. What has Silva got in his armoury? Up with the best in Europe at home over 4 seasons. So no better than Frank then?

Then there's Dyche. Continuity right in front of his eyes. But no, the big name it had to be, completely ignoring all of the logic and sensible thinking intended from the outset because of his playing career and 4 titles McLaren managed to win as well. 'Trying something different' was the message. Yep, different in that it was just as or more risky than Pardew's transition.

To add I think the Zaha ego massaging was either badly timed, should've been delayed, or just agree the package without the holiday and I think Parish will probably admit to himself he had 4 too many a holiday this summer when he could've been face to face with a manager who'd only worked in football where most transfer work is done by the back room staff.

There's been a lot of infighting between first team players over the approach and handling of the first team, and although you could question their attitude in not just obeying and getting on with it, I cannot question their because it so painful and frustrating watching this unfold in front of our eyes, and most of it avoidable. I mean, come on, def mid issues in Jan 2015 wasn't it? 1 lb in September 2016 and the Flamini result at def mid. Again, def mid. Then we buy 2 lbs for £25 mil where we could've got by with buying a better one scouted and much cheaper. Wind on and in addition to Frank it's 'crisp packet' hands as he's known on hol radio and 1 striker. Yes, 1 striker in the top league in the world.

Hambo, you're good at defending Parish, but not that good. And it's all well and good SP defending this with 'correcting it' but I'm afraid a lot of this can't be corrected because of rules. Benteke breaks himself next week and that's it, finito. It's been said many times that these things will relegate us so it's not as if it's a case of just forget the last 24 months and remember the previous 60 or so.

Good luck Roy.

Now I just don't know if he'll have enough time. If we had 4 points I'd probably stick my neck on the line and say yes. But if we get no more than 1 or 2 points v city united & Chelsea, and it could be zero, he's going to need a win ratio of 40%. Never been done in Roy's prem career. We'd also need to be extremely lucky with injuries until Jan and actually all season. Extremely extremely lucky.

Has the luck run out? It's not like liberties with luck haven't been taken before, which is the whole point and this is what it is.

Are we capable of mid table form to do it and no more not turning up in random games for no plausible explanation? You know the ones I mean. We simply can't afford hardly any of those. It's going to need a lot of unnoticed draws along the way.

This is all opinionated hypothesis. There is no knowing whether Dyche or Silva would have done any better than De Boer. Its likely in hindsight that they might have done but there is no knowing that.

Personally Silva was my ideal first choice for manager but who is to say we didn't try and recruit him but he preferred the Watford role? You ridicule de Boer's record in Holland as a bit of a joke league but he was more successful than Jol, an experienced and generally seen as successful, Premier League Manager. Furthermore there is irony in downplaying the Dutch league before bigging up Silva's past achievements in largely the Greek league and the Portuguese league. Arguably these are leagues with perhaps even less competition than the Dutch league, and in Greece's case less quality.

De Boer was a gamble but arguably so was Silva or Pellegrino. None have any real experience of managing in the Premier League bar Silva who, despite having a good 5 months at Hull, took them down.

I think Schlupp and PVA were good buys and both had niggling injuries at times last year but were excellent at shoring up the left side. Had we bought just one we may have had to play Kelly there again at some point and that could have sent us down.

Flamini was disappointing but there was no way of knowing that at the time we signed him. in the prior season he had played quite a few games for Arsenal so it would be logical to think he would walk into our side and do a good job. For whatever reason he was only ever a bit part player but again this is all with the benefit of hindsight. Most teams in the League last year, especially of our size, would have bitten your arm off if you offered them Flamini for free.

I actually agree with you that it is unacceptable to go into this season with only 1 fit striker. That is a clear risk in my view and Benteke needs some competition. However, Chelsea have only really used Loftus Cheek as a striker so he could easily fill in there if needed so I don't think we are quite as exposed there as some think but an additional striker needed to be a priority this summer in my view and the failure to get one is a mistake.

This is all opinionated hypothesis. There is no knowing whether Dyche or Silva would have done any better than De Boer. Its likely in hindsight that they might have done but there is no knowing that.

Personally Silva was my ideal first choice for manager but who is to say we didn't try and recruit him but he preferred the Watford role? You ridicule de Boer's record in Holland as a bit of a joke league but he was more successful than Jol, an experienced and generally seen as successful, Premier League Manager. Furthermore there is irony in downplaying the Dutch league before bigging up Silva's past achievements in largely the Greek league and the Portuguese league. Arguably these are leagues with perhaps even less competition than the Dutch league, and in Greece's case less quality.

De Boer was a gamble but arguably so was Silva or Pellegrino. None have any real experience of managing in the Premier League bar Silva who, despite having a good 5 months at Hull, took them down.

I think Schlupp and PVA were good buys and both had niggling injuries at times last year but were excellent at shoring up the left side. Had we bought just one we may have had to play Kelly there again at some point and that could have sent us down.

Flamini was disappointing but there was no way of knowing that at the time we signed him. in the prior season he had played quite a few games for Arsenal so it would be logical to think he would walk into our side and do a good job. For whatever reason he was only ever a bit part player but again this is all with the benefit of hindsight. Most teams in the League last year, especially of our size, would have bitten your arm off if you offered them Flamini for free.

I actually agree with you that it is unacceptable to go into this season with only 1 fit striker. That is a clear risk in my view and Benteke needs some competition. However, Chelsea have only really used Loftus Cheek as a striker so he could easily fill in there if needed so I don't think we are quite as exposed there as some think but an additional striker needed to be a priority this summer in my view and the failure to get one is a mistake.