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Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Aug 17 1.04pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Ah, I foresee furious outrage at this re-writing of history from our usual posters. Let's face it, they have to be 'even-handed'.

In fact I was thinking of the Bolsheviks in my earlier post about standing up to zealots and not giving them free rein. I can't find a quote but I believe they had some kind of concept of needing one machine gunner at every street corner. In other words, only a small number of people needs to mobilise to control the lives of the majority, where the majority chooses not to mobilise.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 21 Aug 17 1.08pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Ah, I foresee furious outrage at this re-writing of history from our usual posters. Let's face it, they have to be 'even-handed'.

In fact I was thinking of the Bolsheviks in my earlier post about standing up to zealots and not giving them free rein. I can't find a quote but I believe they had some kind of concept of needing one machine gunner at every street corner. In other words, only a small number of people needs to mobilise to control the lives of the majority, where the majority chooses not to mobilise.

If the statue concerns events that happened within the last 100 years and locals vote to remove it, then yes do so. Therefore Lenin can go - just.

Edited by hedgehog50 (21 Aug 2017 1.08pm)

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Aug 17 1.09pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

I must say I am disappointed with the response to this - no one has joined! Just think, if the FC Schalke 04 fans had taken similar action in the 1930s against Hitler, World War II could have been averted. We may even have won the penalty shoot-out in the 1990 World Cup semi-final. So if you want to be a PRICK join the collective!

You could start by spelling the Ku Klux Klan correctly. Then you could note that Conan Doyle wrote The Five Orange Pips in 1891. That is two iterations of the Klan ago and in theory it no longer existed at that time - having been suppressed in 1871 and not reappearing until 1915.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 21 Aug 17 1.09pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Ah, I foresee furious outrage at this re-writing of history from our usual posters. Let's face it, they have to be 'even-handed'.

In fact I was thinking of the Bolsheviks in my earlier post about standing up to zealots and not giving them free rein. I can't find a quote but I believe they had some kind of concept of needing one machine gunner at every street corner. In other words, only a small number of people needs to mobilise to control the lives of the majority, where the majority chooses not to mobilise.

What on earth are you talking about making false comparisons with pre revolution Russia! This post appears to be in stark contrast to your post previous to this.

If the law weren't enforcing the law.....that's when there is a problem.

What are you suggesting? That if you aren't going out punching a nazi that soon we are going to have nazis ruling over us?

That's the nonsense that creates violence.....didn't you even watch that Tim Pool video?

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Aug 2017 1.11pm)

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Aug 17 1.11pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What on earth are you talking about making false comparisons with pre revolution Russia!

If the law weren't enforcing the law.....that's when there is a problem.

What are you suggesting? That if you aren't going out punching a nazi that soon we are going to have nazis ruling over us?

That's the nonsense that creates violence.....didn't you even watch that Tim Pool video?

You appear to be struggling with metaphor today Stirling. I am waiting for your comment on the Lenin statues. The law stops at a certain point

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 21 Aug 17 1.16pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

You appear to be struggling with metaphor today Stirling. I am waiting for your comment on the Lenin statues. The law stops at a certain point

You struggle answering questions. Probably a reflection of your painfully obvious self absorption.

Haven't my comments laid it out as overtly as possible? If the local democracy around vote for something that's within the law then I have no issues with it. So if they want a statue there or not a statue there that's for them.

I don't agree with mobs tearing down statues no....This happens in times of war and conflict but I've never agreed that this is how you deal with stuff.


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 21 Aug 17 1.19pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

You could start by spelling the Ku Klux Klan correctly. Then you could note that Conan Doyle wrote The Five Orange Pips in 1891. That is two iterations of the Klan ago and in theory it no longer existed at that time - having been suppressed in 1871 and not reappearing until 1915.

Yes, but do you want to be a PRICK? If so, I can send you details of the secret sign to be used.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 21 Aug 17 1.21pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Yes, but do you want to be a PRICK? If so, I can send you details of the secret sign to be used.

Oh dear. I think you need to go to comedy school, start gently with my dogs got no nose. Don't run before you can walk though.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 21 Aug 17 1.35pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Oh dear. I think you need to go to comedy school, start gently with my dogs got no nose. Don't run before you can walk though.

What is your stance on some of the highly unflattering passages concerning people of colour and foreigners in general in Conan Doyles' books?

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 21 Aug 17 1.36pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Oh dear. I think you need to go to comedy school, start gently with my dogs got no nose. Don't run before you can walk though.

My dogs got no nose.
How does he smell?
He can't fcuking smell....didn't I just tell you he hasn't got a nose.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 21 Aug 17 1.38pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

What is your stance on some of the highly unflattering passages concerning people of colour and foreigners in general in Conan Doyles' books?

My stance is that it was wrong but of it's time. It's just a shame that in 2017 people think it's ok to come up with that stuff and think it's ok.

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 21 Aug 17 1.40pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

And you'll carry on waving the white supremacists flag.

deliberately carrying on the ridiculous tone of your post

YAWN. you can tell It's half term *24 Hour poster boy*

 


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