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Ray in Houston Houston 15 Aug 17 9.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Totally agree with you. I think this is one of the best aspects about the better democracies. The freedom to express your opinion and ideas.....though obviously within reasonable bounds. I don't like any politician mucking around with that. I hear there is some suspicion about Trump and the Internet....Hopefully not.
This is theme to the Trump administration. He has put in charge of the Dept. of Energy a man who campaigned on abolishing it. Head of the EPA? A man who was suing it and so is now in charge of his settling his own lawsuit (and does not see the need to recuse himself from the process). Head of Housing? A sleepy neurosurgeon. Head of Public Education? A woman who has worked tirelessly to privitise education (and who has a financial stake in doing so). Pretty much everyone else is either a family member or from Goldman Sachs. #DraintheSwamp
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Dave58 Ipswich 16 Aug 17 6.57am | |
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He now gets criticism for saying the Virginia violence came from all sides. Trump old chap, when will you realise that people don't like the truth?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Aug 17 9.06am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm not what you would exactly call a Trump supporter, but six months in and the US stock market has added four trillion dollars of worth to the US. Yet does his pretty much totally negative media report report that? There's a lack of evenness. A lot of what Trump tweets about is...well to put it politely BS but on the unreliability and bias of the mainstream news media he is definitely not wrong. Sorry but your post is also BS. Trump has had no genuine effect on the stock market, despite his many claims to the contrary. Economies take much longer to respond to stimulus than the few months since Trump became POTUS. The rise is all because of greed and the expectation that company profits will rise as a consequence of the promised tax cuts. The Republicans have been tolerating Trump only because they expect to be enriched by that. When the tipping point is reached that they no longer see any benefit in keeping him he will be dumped and the stock market will fall again to it's real level. That point isn't far away, so sell now!
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Aug 17 9.14am | |
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Originally posted by Dave58
He now gets criticism for saying the Virginia violence came from all sides. Trump old chap, when will you realise that people don't like the truth? He quite rightly gets criticism because there is no moral equivalency between those who openly support white supremacy and Nazi ideas and those who protest them. Such ideas on display need to be resisted. The idea that a group of Nazis can parade through the streets with automatic weapons and body armour is disgusting. It isn't just free speech! It is a direct challenge to everything democracy has fought for in the last 100 years.
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Stirlingsays 16 Aug 17 9.17am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Sorry but your post is also BS. Trump has had no genuine effect on the stock market, despite his many claims to the contrary. Economies take much longer to respond to stimulus than the few months since Trump became POTUS. The rise is all because of greed and the expectation that company profits will rise as a consequence of the promised tax cuts. The Republicans have been tolerating Trump only because they expect to be enriched by that. When the tipping point is reached that they no longer see any benefit in keeping him he will be dumped and the stock market will fall again to it's real level. That point isn't far away, so sell now! Hardly BS then is it. I didn't claim that Trump was some economic genius. The reason the markets have risen is precisely because of Trump being there and what they expect him to do in terms of regulations.
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Stirlingsays 16 Aug 17 9.24am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
He quite rightly gets criticism because there is no moral equivalency between those who openly support white supremacy and Nazi ideas and those who protest them. Such ideas on display need to be resisted. The idea that a group of Nazis can parade through the streets with automatic weapons and body armour is disgusting. It isn't just free speech! It is a direct challenge to everything democracy has fought for in the last 100 years. No problems with people protesting white supremacy. However antifa also go to protests with weapons and attack people. The events at Berkeley where violence was used against a Milo event and people put in hospital set this protest violence trend going and it's just escalating now. Both sets of people are extremists and Trump was right about this.
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Kermit8 Hevon 16 Aug 17 10.40am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
No problems with people protesting white supremacy. However antifa also go to protests with weapons and attack people. The events at Berkeley where violence was used against a Milo event and people put in hospital set this protest violence trend going and it's just escalating now. Both sets of people are extremists and Trump was right about this. The idea is, and looking at fairly recent history as a reference point, is that the far right are prepared to use extreme violence against minorities and liberals in their pursuit of power so the best way to stop them is to confront them and literally hit them harder in order to nip them in the bud. Dialogue and debate doesn't really work with those kind of fanatical extremists whose hatred is deep and dangerous but physical overpowering does. Some people may have a lot of disdain for direct action anti-fascists and any part-hypocrisy therein but if it keeps Nazis and their sympathisers away from office then they must be doing something correct.
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Stirlingsays 16 Aug 17 10.46am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Some people may have a lot of disdain for direct action anti-fascists and any part-hypocrisy therein but if it keeps Nazis and their sympathisers away from office then they must be doing something correct. You should get down there Kermit....dress in black and punch a Nazi. Do your bit to save the world from the far right takeover.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Aug 17 10.52am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You should get down there Kermit....dress in black and punch a Nazi. Do your bit to save the world from the far right takeover. Why not just go to Wisbech. It's a lot nearer.
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Kermit8 Hevon 16 Aug 17 10.54am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You should get down there Kermit....dress in black and punch a Nazi. Do your bit to save the world from the far right takeover. It is tempting. I did like a demo or two back in the day. Anti-vivisection - yes I was one of them animal rights most dangerous people in Britain brigade for a nanosecond. Stop the City was a laugh too. Some very irate red-faced w@nker bankers with ruined suits. If you can't do it when you're young when can you?
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jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Aug 17 10.58am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
It is tempting. I did like a demo or two back in the day. Anti-vivisection - yes I was one of them animal rights most dangerous people in Britain brigade for a nanosecond. Stop the City was a laugh too. Some very irate red-faced w@nker bankers with ruined suits. If you can't do it when you're young when can you? Yep, its a day out, get to meet people, usually a few women around, and its pretty good fun, even if its a largely futile approach. Its the political motivated equivalent of hiking.
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Stirlingsays 16 Aug 17 11.15am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
It is tempting. I did like a demo or two back in the day. Anti-vivisection - yes I was one of them animal rights most dangerous people in Britain brigade for a nanosecond. Stop the City was a laugh too. Some very irate red-faced w@nker bankers with ruined suits. If you can't do it when you're young when can you? I suppose....I've never felt angry enough to actually get out yet...If I was young around 2008 I may have done the city protests....but it turned into a kind of 'destroy' the city rather than 'what the fcuk! I want arrests!'. I might demo over free speech at some point or Brexit if it doesn't happen.....or the wilful lack of action on population growth if enough people catch on to what's happening there.....oh and people should definitely be demonstrating over the housing crises....which is connected to rate of population growth. Hey suddenly I seem like a fervent protester.....There's a lot that needs to be worked on in society. I just can't be bothered to move my fat muscular arse.
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