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 Stirlingsays  27 Mar 17 7.51am |
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Anyone thinking that NI is leaving the union anytime soon just doesn't know any unionists from Belfast.
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Kermit8  Hevon 27 Mar 17 7.56am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Anyone thinking that NI is leaving the union anytime soon just doesn't know any unionists from Belfast. A United Ireland will leave them no choice and that is something which will happen within the next 50 years, i reckon.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 27 Mar 17 9.04am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Always with the sly digs. Interesting reading on the use of language... [Link] He said this too: "So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot."
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| steeleye20 Croydon 27 Mar 17 9.47am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Would that render the Union Jack obsolete. That would upset a few Brexiters if that was an unintended consequence of voting leave. Yes a pity the union jack is great some of us even manage to hold it the right way (broad stripe at the top), the EU flag is cool too. I was quite aware that there would be consequences for the Union with Scotland I heard William Hague give that as his reason to remain. Regards
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| steeleye20 Croydon 27 Mar 17 10.17am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
A United Ireland will leave them no choice and that is something which will happen within the next 50 years, i reckon. Are we not missing that NI will change due to the vote by democratic process of 50-50 Sinn Fein and Unionists?
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| Stirlingsays 27 Mar 17 10.55am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
A United Ireland will leave them no choice and that is something which will happen within the next 50 years, i reckon. A united nothing. If you force people you will beget violence. You will have the IRA in reverse. Again, you obviously don't know many unionists from Belfast.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 27 Mar 17 11.09am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
A united nothing. If you force people you will beget violence. You will have the IRA in reverse. Again, you obviously don't know many unionists from Belfast. Unionists must have changed their vote to Sinn Fein in sufficient numbers to affect the political map of their country. Perhaps with their new prosperity it is just not such a big deal. I don't see any forcing of people's will. Leaving the Union would be quite likely although the tories will pour in borrowed money to keep them in.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Mar 17 11.16am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Unionists must have changed their vote to Sinn Fein in sufficient numbers to affect the political map of their country. Perhaps with their new prosperity it is just not such a big deal. I don't see any forcing of people's will. Leaving the Union would be quite likely although the tories will pour in borrowed money to keep them in. It isn't unionists changing their vote....You seriously think unionists would vote Sinn Fein...Hahahaha. Over time the good friday agreement has seen a lot of Catholics moving into areas that were solid unionist before. Added to that disenchantment with their party and you get the recent vote.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 27 Mar 17 11.16am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
A united nothing. If you force people you will beget violence. You will have the IRA in reverse. Again, you obviously don't know many unionists from Belfast. 're-united' i should have said. Pockets of Unionist resistance won't stop it happening nor will it regain partition should Ireland become one country once more. The political will just won't be there. If they were to kick-off, but without Establishment help this time, I would not fancy their chances at all. Face it. Northern Ireland is on borrowed time. A failed state the history books will tell us.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 27 Mar 17 11.19am |
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I wouldn't be bothered by a united Ireland. It would remove a huge drain on British resources and transfer the problems to Eire. There would of course be Protestant terrorism, but that would be Eire's problem. We could make sympathetic noises but do nothing substantial about it - just like Eire did with us and the IRA.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Mar 17 11.20am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
're-united' i should have said. Pockets of Unionist resistance won't stop it happening nor will it regain partition should Ireland become one country once more. The political will just won't be there. If they were to kick-off, but without Establishment help this time, I would not fancy their chances at all. Face it. Northern Ireland is on borrowed time. A failed state the history books will tell us.
You are deluding yourself. If it happened you would have war.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Mar 17 11.22am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
I wouldn't be bothered by a united Ireland. It would remove a huge drain on British resources and transfer the problems to Eire. There would of course be Protestant terrorism, but that would be Eire's problem. We could make sympathetic noises but do nothing substantial about it - just like Eire did with us and the IRA. Eire can't support themselves let alone the north. They permanently have their hands out to the EU as it is.
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