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Rumour: Pulis To Quit In The Summer
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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 27 Jan 14 10.14am |
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Funny how people fully believe the spin on the Moody transfers at Cardiff. Does anybody not think that Tan would've seen the transfers one by one or week to week? Or did all the deals land in his email inbox all in one go? Dear boss, I've spent £10mil more than agreed. Regards, I. Moody.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 27 Jan 14 10.17am |
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Interesting how also sydtheeagle has started in this thread by saying 'Parish should keep his mouth shut', to 'Why aren't we being told what is going on?' This is amongst threads where no clues as to how he or anyone else with this viewpoint thinks we should go about the wage and contract length demands of players already in £40k - £50k per week contracts. In all the states people have worked themselves into, they cannot grasp that you either have to spend very highly right now, or you wait a few days. Clubs cannot use more than the 25 man squads plus youngsters. It really is that straightforward yet people just don't want to accept it. Instead argue around and avoid the exact economics. Edited by Rudi Hedman (27 Jan 2014 10.24am)
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| Mapletree Croydon 27 Jan 14 10.19am |
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Quote Rudi Hedman at 27 Jan 2014 10.00am
Quote Ian J at 27 Jan 2014 9.02am
Quote Horsham_Eagle at 27 Jan 2014 8.42am
[But the owners of Cardiff and Hull don't interfere with the footballing side of the club at all. One changed the colours that they play in and the other wants a slight change to the club's name. People do claim that if they don't get their own way that they might just walk away from the club but somehow I doubt it as it would mean writing off the sizeable debts that the clubs own them and no-ne is daft enough to cut off their noses to spite a few disgruntled fans. I would say that undermining a previously successful manager, replacing the sporting director with someone who had no knowledge of football, and then bringing in a manager with no experience of managing in the premiership, and an average managerial record at best is definitely interfering in the football side of thigns It would appear that the Sporting Director that he sacked had been acting way outside his terms of reference if the media reports are to be believed and he had lost confidence in his ability to perform. What is so different about Tan "bringing in a manager with no experience of managing in the premiership, and an average managerial record at best" which you claim is "definitely interfering in the football side of things" and Steve Parish who appointed Dougie Freedman who had absolutely no experience of managing any club in any division whatsoever
1) Nobody wanted to take it on. We know this because it was the same the previous year in admin when only Paul Hart was willing. 2) DF knew the whole squad as he'd been a coach or asst for 12 months. 3) He gave 2010 of what he needed adding (KG, Augustien), and how he could earn the points to stay up. 4) We were at rock bottom, he was starting out. Perfect fit. We grow together. Unfortunately DF wanted to go at his speed and couldn't go at the developing speed of Jedi, Zaha etc without being nudged by the board. Don't compare Palace in 22nd place in the Championship with the squad and budget then, with Cardiff now.
You beat me to it Rudi. Just not a sensible comment, we were in the poop and had to get a manager. And Dougie appears to have been the best of whoever was interviewed. Tan created the need by disposing of a perfectly serviceable one. And as you say, it's not the same thing bringing in a new manager when you are in the Premiership, with the massively bigger scale and financial risks. Mind you, it does look like it may have been a master stroke. Solskjaer appears to have all the right friends. Edited by Mapletree (27 Jan 2014 10.20am)
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 27 Jan 14 10.23am |
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Pulis denies he will quit
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| ElliottHutchins Wakefield 27 Jan 14 10.25am |
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Lol. Thats the end of that Tabloid bollocks then. I knew it was all s***. Pulis isn't that sort of character. He is frustrated which is apparent to see for all but they've just added a bit on by saying he'll leave because of it. We'll sign some decent players and Pulis will stay. Relax Frankie!
I was there - ElliottHutchins 19/12/2006 R.I.P. staffie & DJ Hardline |
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| WingJohnson Orpington 27 Jan 14 10.30am |
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That's good news. Relaxation time.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Jan 14 10.34am |
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Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 27 Jan 2014 10.23am
Pulis denies he will quit
So much for the alleged "Fallout" with Parish which I stated was not true ! Is Pulis disappointed that he hasn't been able to secure certain targets ? YES
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 27 Jan 14 10.39am |
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Quote ElliottHutchins at 27 Jan 2014 10.25am
Lol. Thats the end of that Tabloid bollocks then. I knew it was all s***. Pulis isn't that sort of character. He is frustrated which is apparent to see for all but they've just added a bit on by saying he'll leave because of it. We'll sign some decent players and Pulis will stay. Relax Frankie!
Pulis told the South London Press: "It sells papers. I've never done that before and I'm not going to do that now. Of course he might leave in the Summer. Anyone might leave anywhere in the Summer. What matters is survival that is calculated properly. If that situation arises we'll know what we need to do with that open position and the squad. Edited by Rudi Hedman (27 Jan 2014 10.40am)
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| Midlands Eagle 27 Jan 14 10.47am |
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Quote Mapletree at 27 Jan 2014 10.19am
Quote Rudi Hedman at 27 Jan 2014 10.00am
Quote Ian J at 27 Jan 2014 9.02am
Quote Horsham_Eagle at 27 Jan 2014 8.42am
[But the owners of Cardiff and Hull don't interfere with the footballing side of the club at all. One changed the colours that they play in and the other wants a slight change to the club's name. People do claim that if they don't get their own way that they might just walk away from the club but somehow I doubt it as it would mean writing off the sizeable debts that the clubs own them and no-ne is daft enough to cut off their noses to spite a few disgruntled fans. I would say that undermining a previously successful manager, replacing the sporting director with someone who had no knowledge of football, and then bringing in a manager with no experience of managing in the premiership, and an average managerial record at best is definitely interfering in the football side of thigns It would appear that the Sporting Director that he sacked had been acting way outside his terms of reference if the media reports are to be believed and he had lost confidence in his ability to perform. What is so different about Tan "bringing in a manager with no experience of managing in the premiership, and an average managerial record at best" which you claim is "definitely interfering in the football side of things" and Steve Parish who appointed Dougie Freedman who had absolutely no experience of managing any club in any division whatsoever
1) Nobody wanted to take it on. We know this because it was the same the previous year in admin when only Paul Hart was willing. 2) DF knew the whole squad as he'd been a coach or asst for 12 months. 3) He gave 2010 of what he needed adding (KG, Augustien), and how he could earn the points to stay up. 4) We were at rock bottom, he was starting out. Perfect fit. We grow together. Unfortunately DF wanted to go at his speed and couldn't go at the developing speed of Jedi, Zaha etc without being nudged by the board. Don't compare Palace in 22nd place in the Championship with the squad and budget then, with Cardiff now.
You beat me to it Rudi. Just not a sensible comment, we were in the poop and had to get a manager. And Dougie appears to have been the best of whoever was interviewed. I'm beginning to think that some people just like the sound of their own voices as they are fond of answering questions that haven't been asked and taking quotes out of context just for the sake of arguing. Let's have a look at the timeline on this one. 1) In answer to the specific point that at least we don't have awful owners like Cardiff and Hull I comment that whilst they annoy supporters by changing the team's colours and trying to change the club's name at least they have pumped many millions into their clubs and they don't get involved in footballing matters. 2) Someone answers that Tan does get involved in football matters as he sacked a manager and replaced him with one that had no Premiership experience 3) I replied specifically to that point saying that Steve Parish did the same by sacking our manager and replacing him with someone with no managerial experience at all. 4) I am now accused of having a selective memory by one person and posting a reply that wasn't sensible by another.
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| Midlands Eagle 27 Jan 14 10.50am |
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Quote Willo at 27 Jan 2014 10.34am
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 27 Jan 2014 10.23am
Pulis denies he will quit
So much for the alleged "Fallout" with Parish which I stated was not true ! Is Pulis disappointed that he hasn't been able to secure certain targets ? YES We all know that your style is to post as if you're in the know but in the denial issued by Tony Pulis he didn't mention whether he had fallen out with Steve Parish or not.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Jan 14 10.54am |
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Quote Ian J at 27 Jan 2014 10.50am
We all know that your style is to post as if you're in the know but in the denial issued by Tony Pulis he didn't mention whether he had fallen out with Steve Parish or not. With respect, I don't set out to give any such impression so it is down to your interpretation of my comments.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 27 Jan 14 11.03am |
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Quote Ian J at 27 Jan 2014 10.50am
Quote Willo at 27 Jan 2014 10.34am
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 27 Jan 2014 10.23am
Pulis denies he will quit
So much for the alleged "Fallout" with Parish which I stated was not true ! Is Pulis disappointed that he hasn't been able to secure certain targets ? YES We all know that your style is to post as if you're in the know but in the denial issued by Tony Pulis he didn't mention whether he had fallen out with Steve Parish or not.
Tan does or doesn't get involved and Moody is now criticised heavily for overspending. Should he have kept quiet, should he have spoken up, or does he speak after it's gone t1ts up? Hindsight is great, SP makes calculated decisions before that happens. If it goes wrong, some ownership of errors are made. I know who I'd rather have, and I know I'd rather have an owner who isn't acquiescent to every decision based on here and now whilst praying that having 1,2, or 3 £50k a week players for the next 3 seasons with everyone else on £15k or less isn't going to be a problem. TP won't specifically deny there's tensions because quite frankly, that's day to day life when you have one party that wants one end of the spectrum because he's interested in his career and the consequences do not matter, versus the one who signs cheques off and has a bigger and longer-term responsibilty, which I'm glad he does.
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