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  Hrolf The Ganger  17 Oct 19 1.50pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You never like the truth do you? Populism, as defined in the Cambridge dictionary:- "political ideas and activities that are intended to get the support of ordinary people by giving them what they want". Note, what they want and not what they need! Appealing to the wishes of the majority gets you elected but it won't deliver good solutions. I don't like your truth. Your assumption that 'populist' is wrong by definition is plain daft. Populism is a word adopted by the Left to belittle opposing opinion and nothing more. It has replaced the ever increasingly incredible terms related to racism and the Right wing.
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| dannyboy1978 17 Oct 19 1.51pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
May got a deal too. You do realise this right? Have another read of what I said. I know your upset but try again.
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| DanH SW2 17 Oct 19 1.54pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Have another read of what I said. I know your upset but try again. I know it’s hard to muddle through your spelling mistakes but what has ‘Borris’ done so far that May didn’t?
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 17 Oct 19 2.00pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
If any poster here is capable of digging themselves into a hole and refusing all offers of a ladder to get themselves out it is you. So I seriously suggest you put down your shovel and go back to watching day time TV.
Lower deck lawyers I have sh1t them!!
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 17 Oct 19 2.10pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You never like the truth do you? Populism, as defined in the Cambridge dictionary:- "political ideas and activities that are intended to get the support of ordinary people by giving them what they want". Note, what they want and not what they need! Appealing to the wishes of the majority gets you elected but it won't deliver good solutions. 'Populism' was very much to the forefront this morning when those ER clowns were pulled of the tops of those Subway trains
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| Badger11 Beckenham 17 Oct 19 2.11pm |
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I think the vote will be tight very tight. The DUP will vote against it en bloc as will the SNP and LIB Dems. The ERG will probably split, the pundits think most will vote for the deal with a few hold outs. That leaves the 21 /22 ex Tory MPs. Boris has told them if they vote for it they are welcome back. Some have defected others like Clarke will never vote for it so it remains to be seen how many can Boris peel off. The Labour party is going to be the key here. If Boris can pick off around 25 MPs he might just get it though. Both Boris and Corbyn has made this a confidence vote so if enough Labour MPs rebel against Jeremy does that put him in trouble? There will be a GE very soon some Labour MPs may see this vote as an excuse to get rid of Corbyn before the GE? Who knows? Still all to play for.
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| DANGERCLOSE London 17 Oct 19 2.12pm |
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johnno42000  17 Oct 19 2.31pm |
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Didn't the ERG say they wouldn't back any deal that the DUP objected to? They would be very hypocritical if any of them voted for a deal if the DUP don't... put them together and move them around and you get PURGED.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 17 Oct 19 2.38pm |
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Interesting Juncker has just ruled out an extension after 31 Oct. So if the EU sticks to their word on Saturday MPs have a choice Boris deal or no deal.
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jeeagles  17 Oct 19 2.39pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
The Labour party is going to be the key here. If Boris can pick off around 25 MPs he might just get it though. Both Boris and Corbyn has made this a confidence vote so if enough Labour MPs rebel against Jeremy does that put him in trouble? There will be a GE very soon some Labour MPs may see this vote as an excuse to get rid of Corbyn before the GE? Who knows? Still all to play for.
The problem is it seems the current Labour Party have got rid of all the political talent that are wise enough to get rid of Corbyn. I can't see how he can come out of this looking good though? Junker has just announced that their wont be a further extension. So even if Boris asks for a further extension it's likely to be rejected in order to stop this dragging on further and our MEP's taking their seats. Junker also probably realises that if one member state vetos the extension that it wouldn't happen anyway.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 17 Oct 19 2.48pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
The problem is it seems the current Labour Party have got rid of all the political talent that are wise enough to get rid of Corbyn. I can't see how he can come out of this looking good though? Junker has just announced that their wont be a further extension. So even if Boris asks for a further extension it's likely to be rejected in order to stop this dragging on further and our MEP's taking their seats. Junker also probably realises that if one member state vetos the extension that it wouldn't happen anyway. Not sure about that from Junckers whether it is just up to him. Looks on his last legs is he really all there.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 17 Oct 19 2.50pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Interesting Juncker has just ruled out an extension after 31 Oct. So if the EU sticks to their word on Saturday MPs have a choice Boris deal or no deal. Not necessarily, there is still the option to cancel (remain).
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