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 Stirlingsays  16 Oct 22 7.17pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Stuck on sept 6 mods- please bump me up- the voice of reason WILL NOT be silenced! Tell that to Alex Belfield. Stitched up a kipper.
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 16 Oct 22 7.58pm |
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 16 Oct 22 8.10pm |
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3 CON mp"s have come out and said lizzy dripping must go-it"s only a matter of time I think!
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| Matov 16 Oct 22 8.34pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
3 CON mp"s have come out and said lizzy dripping must go-it"s only a matter of time I think!
Because for them it is a potentially party ending decision. I have seen plenty of Tory members saying that would leave the party immediately if Truss is forced out and they are not given a say in who replaces her. First Johnson, who was popular within the Tory membership, and now Truss, who was elected by them as well and I am not sure the party can, or deserves, to survive it. Meaning...s***. Could be a snap election in December. Because I just cannot see how the Tories survive just their MP's appointing Sunak as PM without going through the normal leadership process. Deciding you no longer want to be in Government is one thing (and I am convinced they feel it is better to be sitting out the next few years for all sorts of reasons) but trying to just impose a PM who is not popular with your core membership, who are already thoroughly pissed off, is just suicidal.
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 16 Oct 22 8.57pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Because for them it is a potentially party ending decision. I have seen plenty of Tory members saying that would leave the party immediately if Truss is forced out and they are not given a say in who replaces her. First Johnson, who was popular within the Tory membership, and now Truss, who was elected by them as well and I am not sure the party can, or deserves, to survive it. Meaning...s***. Could be a snap election in December. Because I just cannot see how the Tories survive just their MP's appointing Sunak as PM without going through the normal leadership process. Deciding you no longer want to be in Government is one thing (and I am convinced they feel it is better to be sitting out the next few years for all sorts of reasons) but trying to just impose a PM who is not popular with your core membership, who are already thoroughly pissed off, is just suicidal.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Oct 22 9.07pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Because for them it is a potentially party ending decision. I have seen plenty of Tory members saying that would leave the party immediately if Truss is forced out and they are not given a say in who replaces her. First Johnson, who was popular within the Tory membership, and now Truss, who was elected by them as well and I am not sure the party can, or deserves, to survive it. Meaning...s***. Could be a snap election in December. Because I just cannot see how the Tories survive just their MP's appointing Sunak as PM without going through the normal leadership process. Deciding you no longer want to be in Government is one thing (and I am convinced they feel it is better to be sitting out the next few years for all sorts of reasons) but trying to just impose a PM who is not popular with your core membership, who are already thoroughly pissed off, is just suicidal. The MPs always choose the PM!! The membership only choose the Party leader and by convention they also become PM but the MPs still need to formally confirm them and can also remove them via a vote of no confidence. Conventions can change. Unlike you all the Tory members I have heard on this accept that right now they ought not be involved again. Things need to change swiftly. We need to restore confidence and stability.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Oct 22 9.47pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
My comment didn't relate against other currencies, it specifically referred to the dollar's devaluation.....the reality is a badly performing dollar affects other currencies as well but other than the knowledge I have it isn't my strong suit. However, rather than me jump, you did in your impetuous desire to defend the Biden administration's pathetic performance....which indeed, worsens pretty much every sphere it controls. However, what I will say about the economic performance of the dollar is that its fall is indicative of general US economics rather than one party. The Democrats have just continued to worsen the situation and continued to lie to its people about it. Before them the Republicans were no better. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Oct 2022 3.14pm) What you said was that the dollar is devaluing. Which you confirm above! Devaluation always relates to relative value against other currencies. Inflation has nothing to do with it. Obviously not your strong suit. I don’t do much defend the Biden administration as criticise the really ignorant and stupid attacks on him. They are pathetic and childish.
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| Spiderman Horsham 16 Oct 22 10.28pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
I will make my case in the fact that a significant % of leave voters had no idea what they were voting for or why. Many voted as a protest against the tories or austerity or to stem the flow of non EU migrants 9r other stuff that had nothing whatever to do with leave. There were Lso those who actually believed the side of the bus promise and objected to the EU contribution ignoring the fact that every club requires a sub. Do you post on bbs by any chance? If not, you should
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| Stirlingsays 16 Oct 22 11.29pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What you said was that the dollar is devaluing. Which you confirm above! Devaluation always relates to relative value against other currencies. Inflation has nothing to do with it. Obviously not your strong suit. I don’t do much defend the Biden administration as criticise the really ignorant and stupid attacks on him. They are pathetic and childish. No, what I was referring to, which I provided proof of, was the devaluation of the dollar currency in its spending power, which Biden has continued the trend on. If I had wanted to refer to currency devaluation then I could have done it but that's a different discussion that involves the weakening of multiple economies via financial short termism and other acts of selfish 'kick the can down the road' traitors. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Oct 2022 11.30pm)
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 16 Oct 22 11.46pm |
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Is it childish to be concerned that the President of the US is not firing on all cylinders? The longer he is in office the more examples of his declining acuity and cognitive decline. If the US are ok with this and willing to continue on the basis they think he has a good team actually making the decisions then that is up to them. To deny the obvious is simply blind ideology.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Oct 22 12.03am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
No, what I was referring to, which I provided proof of, was the devaluation of the dollar currency in its spending power, which Biden has continued the trend on. If I had wanted to refer to currency devaluation then I could have done it but that's a different discussion that involves the weakening of multiple economies via financial short termism and other acts of selfish 'kick the can down the road' traitors. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Oct 2022 11.30pm)
That might have been what you meant but it’s not what you said! You are talking about inflation, not devaluation. Everywhere is suffering from inflationary pressures at the moment. Blaming any government for all of it. is juvenile, but of course people do it. Governments can make things worse, sometimes much worse as ours has done, but by comparison the current US administration is handling things much better. The inflation rate there is 8.2% but expected to fall to 3.5% in 2023. . Ours is 8.6% and expected to rise sharply next year after the disaster of the recent weeks. So I suggest you refocus your sights on the stupidity of the libertarian trickle down politics practiced by the sort of Brexit loving politicians you favour. Look where that has got us!
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Teddy Eagle  17 Oct 22 12.17am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That might have been what you meant but it’s not what you said! You are talking about inflation, not devaluation. Everywhere is suffering from inflationary pressures at the moment. Blaming any government for all of it. is juvenile, but of course people do it. Governments can make things worse, sometimes much worse as ours has done, but by comparison the current US administration is handling things much better. The inflation rate there is 8.2% but expected to fall to 3.5% in 2023. . Ours is 8.6% and expected to rise sharply next year after the disaster of the recent weeks. So I suggest you refocus your sights on the stupidity of the libertarian trickle down politics practiced by the sort of Brexit loving politicians you favour. Look where that has got us! Is America doing that well?
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