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 PalazioVecchio  south pole 24 Nov 20 9.55am |
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Originally posted by DanH
No wonder you're skint. No wonder you're disliked.
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matthau  South Croydon 24 Nov 20 9.59am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
It's over. The silence on this thread is now disconcerting. Maybe all the QAnoners are frantically searching 8Kun for any crumbs of solace... It's all part of THE PLAN. 2030! It’s not over by a country mile You are such a little sarcy weasel. I was like you. Typical taking the piss out of anyone who dared think differently. I despised trump. I also washed my hands a thousand times back in March, clapped for the nhs. (Still do!) but I chose to look at stuff more closely And yes. Qanon is real. Within the next few months you will see it And none of it will had been worth it for me. None of it. I’ll have a two min ‘i told you so’. So what? Everyone who has realised trump is the good guy here and it went against their better judgement, had to drop their ego and say they got it wrong, received ridicule from people who follow the bbc and wear their mask like brain dead morons, none of it has been worth it. Just because someone has a different train of thought and can be considered a conspiracy theorist doesn’t mean they should face such horrible sarcastic opinions. But there you go. I was banned from fb re Qanon. Banned from twitter. Banned from Instagram.
Why haven’t the media shown half as much interest in shutting down antifa who rioted and killed in the streets???
4/5 million people were in Berlin. They knew there were that many simply by showing aerial shots abd yet mass media states it was 40 thousand. Q is the real deal and I don’t say that because I ‘hope’ they are. Anyone with an iota of intelligence who has taken some real time aside to investigate it all and saw the time lines and saw how they constantly predicted occurances that came out in the media a week later relentlessly all spring and summer will know it’s the real deal How anyone can think this hasn’t been a silent war this year with all the major goings on is the one with their heads buried in the sand here. And yet those that have their heads buried in the sand choose to shout ridicule to those who have chosen to speak out. Drop the ego.
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| matthau South Croydon 24 Nov 20 10.03am |
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Huge crowds all mostly ignored by msm or reported as having a few thousand attend.
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Attachment:  SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 24 Nov 20 10.05am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I thought you were going to wait, you seem a little invested perhaps. I'm still waiting myself as the republicans plan to get this to the supreme court....but I'd agree it's unlikely to overturn the final result...but if they reveal corruption I'm fine with that. If the republicans' concerns on voter fraud are false and they want to stretch it out amongst their supporters for the Biden presidency then I view it as the Democrats reaping what they sowed over their own behaviour. The truth didn't matter up until a few weeks ago....suddenly apparently it does. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Nov 2020 9.49am) Not invested. It's just plain to see that Trump conceding is the end of the road. He would not concede if he had even the slightest belief that he would be able to successfully challenge the result. It's too damaging for him. Ergo, the chance of 'widespread voting fraud' being either uncovered or proven in courts, let alone leading to any possibility of Biden being unseated is now vanishingly small. Obviously, if this entire situation somehow flips on it's head, then of course, the truth is the truth and you can't argue with facts. But what are you clinging on to here to now think he still has a chance? It's simply delaying tactics and strategic positioning to sow discord and set himself up for a post presidency disruption campaign. Officially it's done. As for what he does next? I can see him becoming the defacto darling of QAnon and any other right wing / conspiracy movement. Perhaps that in itself is the slightly more disturbing outcome of this whole debacle.
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| matthau South Croydon 24 Nov 20 10.08am |
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He has not conceded at all. Just check Fox News right now. He’s simply said they can make a start on their changeover and has to acknowledge they can help themselves to funding. But the conceding of defeat and the courts has not changed whatsoever.
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| matthau South Croydon 24 Nov 20 10.08am |
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| Stirlingsays 24 Nov 20 10.18am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Not invested. It's just plain to see that Trump conceding is the end of the road. He would not concede if he had even the slightest belief that he would be able to successfully challenge the result. It's too damaging for him. Ergo, the chance of 'widespread voting fraud' being either uncovered or proven in courts, let alone leading to any possibility of Biden being unseated is now vanishingly small. Obviously, if this entire situation somehow flips on it's head, then of course, the truth is the truth and you can't argue with facts. Trump conceded? Blimey I wasn't aware of that, I'll go onto his Twitter after this....I'm aware that the Democratic MSM twist language but if he's actually conceded that changes everything. Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
But what are you clinging on to here to now think he still has a chance? It's simply delaying tactics and strategic positioning to sow discord and set himself up for a post presidency disruption campaign. Officially it's done. As for what he does next? I can see him becoming the defacto darling of QAnon and any other right wing / conspiracy movement. Perhaps that in itself is the slightly more disturbing outcome of this whole debacle. The 'why' Trump does something doesn't concern me. What I'm interested in are the outcomes and how that affects me as a social conservative. You keep having a go at QAnon, why is that? What specifically do you regard as fantasy? Like I said in my previous post truth hasn't seemed to be an important currency in America up to now so I find this sudden respect for it rather convenient.
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| SavoyTruffle 24 Nov 20 10.19am |
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Originally posted by matthau
It’s farrrrr from over. If you want to earn some east money I’d say go for it. If I wasn’t skint I’d Chuck a grand on this The year is 2100, a new creed of half cyborg / half humanoid creatures have seized the White House through violent revolution. Matthau is still on the HOL posting in 2020 US Presidential Election thread - 'It's not over!! Watch the water!! Q will guide us'. It's over... if it wasn't already... everything now from the GOP is political theatre. [Tweet Link]
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 24 Nov 20 10.20am |
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Originally posted by matthau
It’s not over by a country mile You are such a little sarcy weasel. I was like you. Typical taking the piss out of anyone who dared think differently. I despised trump. I also washed my hands a thousand times back in March, clapped for the nhs. (Still do!) but I chose to look at stuff more closely And yes. Qanon is real. Within the next few months you will see it And none of it will had been worth it for me. None of it. I’ll have a two min ‘i told you so’. So what? Everyone who has realised trump is the good guy here and it went against their better judgement, had to drop their ego and say they got it wrong, received ridicule from people who follow the bbc and wear their mask like brain dead morons, none of it has been worth it. Just because someone has a different train of thought and can be considered a conspiracy theorist doesn’t mean they should face such horrible sarcastic opinions. But there you go. I was banned from fb re Qanon. Banned from twitter. Banned from Instagram.
Why haven’t the media shown half as much interest in shutting down antifa who rioted and killed in the streets???
4/5 million people were in Berlin. They knew there were that many simply by showing aerial shots abd yet mass media states it was 40 thousand. Q is the real deal and I don’t say that because I ‘hope’ they are. Anyone with an iota of intelligence who has taken some real time aside to investigate it all and saw the time lines and saw how they constantly predicted occurances that came out in the media a week later relentlessly all spring and summer will know it’s the real deal How anyone can think this hasn’t been a silent war this year with all the major goings on is the one with their heads buried in the sand here. And yet those that have their heads buried in the sand choose to shout ridicule to those who have chosen to speak out. Drop the ego. I do like a good spot of weaselling. It's a fine art. There is a difference between taking the piss and savagely deconstructing spurious nonsense. Oh come on. Do you read what you write? You certainly don't appear to be capable of independent thought, or objective analysis. I don't gravitate towards belief systems – and QAnon is one. I gravitate towards self-research, objectivity, reality and facts. Which is also the reason why unverifiable content gets binned from social channels. I can give you one perfect example of why – Pizzagate. If you're trying to be a credible source of counter-information, that alone is enough for people to put you on a blacklist. But obviously, just like in any religious organisation, failures, inconsistencies and accuracies get swiftly ignored, deflected or reshaped into the next narrative. That's not to say ALL of it is nonsense, but there are certainly way more misses than hits. And yes, someone who has a different, inaccurate, unprovable and widely disproven conspiracy based train of thought should be subjected to strong rebuttal and in some cases, ridicule. It's like being preached to on the doorstep. Keep your circumstantial, fantasy land nonsense to yourself – I am not interested in fairies. 'Within the next few months, you will see it.' As in Trump will prevail? If he has the evidence, and he wins out in court, yep, I'll go with that. But the chance of that occurring is so infinitesimally small after yesterday's climb down (It's all part of the plan though, make people think he's lost then... BAM) I simply have to go with probability and the facts. Not emotion and the whims of an anonymous person raking it in by preying on the insecurities and vulnerabilities of easily led individuals on a forum. Ego? Who has the ego here. I mean really.
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| Stirlingsays 24 Nov 20 10.24am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Not invested. It's just plain to see that Trump conceding is the end of the road. He would not concede if he had even the slightest belief that he would be able to successfully challenge the result. It's too damaging for him. He hasn't conceded. Mmmm....are you sure you aren't invested SW19.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 24 Nov 20 10.27am |
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Originally posted by matthau
He has not conceded at all. Just check Fox News right now. He’s simply said they can make a start on their changeover and has to acknowledge they can help themselves to funding. But the conceding of defeat and the courts has not changed whatsoever. Fair. I'll rephrase, he has all but conceded. I can understand why he won't actually say the words 'I've conceded'. I highly doubt he will ever say that himself – it will probably be left to others to do so so he can protect his carefully crafted anti-establishment brand. He does not 'have' to do anything... again if he genuinely believed in his case he would stand his ground here and not begin the transition. This is another part of the slow trickle towards the inevitable. Then, free of governmental burden, he can build his own empire from a potential 70m+ fanbase. That is more interesting/worrying than dragging out this whole debacle.
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| DanH SW2 24 Nov 20 10.32am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
No wonder you're disliked. By some people on the internet? How will I cope.
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