Yes, apologies. "Tosh" was as a little intemperate and I hope uncharacteristic of my normal posts.

To rephrase, we can't expect any easy results in this division as we are either up against far better resourced teams than us or teams who have otherwise earned the right to be here. Any win should be applauded as doing a job faced with whatever is put in front of us.

What bothers me is the statement that Roy (and the whole club performance is simplistically distilled down to just him) only wins when we are lucky (Leeds), or the other team is unprepared (Manu) etc.

Conversely, is he going to get any credit if we narrowly lose tonight given you can equally argue that Leeds only won because Roy had to field a team largely based in the physio room?

Of course. But that was not the point being made was it.

For me the Roy out camp have gone completely off script now and are refusing to accept any rationale for what responsibility Roy has. Its the same lines peddled out over and over. Some more than others, its almost a competition on this thread now. Boring

Of course. But that was not the point being made was it. Also to those wanting censorship on a 'Roy out' thread. Maybe I could be so bold as to signpost you to a 'Roy in' thread. That may suit your taste more.

For me the Roy out camp have gone completely off script now and are refusing to accept any rationale for what responsibility Roy has. Its the same lines peddled out over and over. Some more than others, its almost a competition on this thread now. Boring

Edited by MonsterMunch (08 Feb 2021 10.37am)

Simple answer Willo. They, as fans of other clubs, do not understand the intricacies of why Roy annoys the hell out of a load of Palace fans. I really do not care what other fans think and I could easily point you in the direction of many fans who see us as the worst team in the PL when we put in one of our ever more frequent dud performances.

Of course, there are serious questions that need to be asked about why we get so many injuries and why most of those injuries occur in training. When you have older players, they rely more on experience than they do the ability to run around like a 20 year old for 90 minutes, so their training schedules should also reflect that. There is hardly a Palace player that hasn’t picked up an injury in the last season.

Before anyone says it’s because they are old they are picking up injuries, it is not just the older ones. Ferguson was coming back to fitness from his knee then got a serious thigh strain. Schlupp, Riedewald, too have picked up knocks that have kept them out.

I’m half expecting to hear Mateta is injured before he kicks a ball for us!

It’s something the management should be looking at because it seems to happen every season, which you would think would rule out just being unlucky.

Edited by Eaglecoops (08 Feb 2021 10.30am)

A "Roy in" thread is pretty pointless because he is in and will be until he retires. I only suggested the thread be closed for one reason only. Surely after 226 pages sthe debate has run it's course. As you so rightly said the same old lines are repeated over and over again ad nauseum and instead of being an interesting debate it is now rubbish and boring as hell.