The BBC were also protectors of Jimmy Savile and Stuart Hall's reputations until the position became untenable.

Wisbech. I don't see left wing bias because I am 'right wing'.

Firstly, my attitudes are by no means 'right wing' and I see Leftist bias because there is Leftist bias.

The arts and entertainment are notoriously liberal/left and anyone who denies that is quite frankly bonkers.
The newspapers are predominantly left wing. This can easily be ascertained by listing them and their political leaning.

Comedy and drama is regularly tainted with bias.
The media fly the flag for such dubious organisations as Black Lives Matter without a thought.
Celebrities often associate themselves with the Labour Party.

It really isn't even a debate.

Anyone who has read my comments over the years I have been here knows I detest both the far left and far right. I had no time for Corbyn and blame him for Brexit not being avoided.

I am a believer in fiscal conservatism and social responsibility, which is what I think most people in the UK also believe in.

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You are either being ridiculous, or deliberately perverse. She can stand silently anywhere you mention. Most others could
stand where she did and receive nothing more than a quiet word.

It was who she was and where she stood that was the issue. Not the silence.

Having previous automatically means you draw attention to yourself. If you are let out of prison on licence and you step out of line you do back in again. It has nothing to do with what anyone is thinking. You and I could be there, think all sorts of devious thoughts and nothing would happen. It's her and her previous that created the problem and not totalitarianism of any kind.

My position on the cake bakers is, and always has been, that whilst their convictions by the lower courts was overturned by the SC on a point of law that, in my opinion that wasn't just so the law needs revision and what they did ought to be illegal. Not that it was. No "memory loss" on my behalf. Maybe on yours, or possibly some misunderstanding.

I am sure the Ashers won't miss me, but I do wonder what impact this all had on their business. No doubt there will be some who approve of their clearance, whilst others feel there has been an injustice. This though is a much bigger principle than just the Ashers and a cake. There was another case down here of a guest house owner who refused a room to a gay couple, was prosecuted, lost the case and had to close the business because they refused to change their stance. Not identical, of course, but separating personal opinions from business actions, are also involved. They claimed it was their home and they could decide whatever they liked. They lost because they offered rooms at a price, so were a business.

I don't think you are stupid, so you must understand that us having a reputation for trustworthiness improves many things. Our trade, our tourism and the welcome we get when on holiday. It also means we get listened to when major international decisions are taken. The biggest benefit though is that the BBC gets watched and so we get noticed. Get noticed, be admired and people want want we have and what we do.

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Became clear might be more accurate.

With hindsight nobody comes out of those times covered in glory. Savile was regarded as a national treasure, feted even by Thatcher.

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This ought to be a parody, but I fear it isn't.

At least it made me laugh and I suspect it made a few others chuckle too.

The only thing that's true there is that it really isn't a debate. Your ideas are complete nonsense

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