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 robdave2k  08 Oct 19 6.56pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I’m glad you have time to be an activist. Personally I’m busy working. Not that I’m probably intelligent enough to do that. You should read your posts back to yourself, as you really are patronising and incapable of seeing another point of view, which is exactly what you accuse every else of.
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| robdave2k 08 Oct 19 7.00pm |
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Originally posted by robdave2k
I’m glad you have time to be an activist. Personally I’m busy working. Not that I’m probably intelligent enough to do that. You should read your posts back to yourself, as you really are patronising and incapable of seeing another point of view, which is exactly what you accuse every else of. Oh and I won’t be sending you a pm for you to “put me straight” But if I could have a lollipop and a pat on the head that would be great.
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 Midlands Eagle 08 Oct 19 7.25pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There is no direct connection between our immigration policy and knife crime that I have ever seen established. That you seem to think there is says quite a lot about how you are thinking. I know that it is deemed politically correct nowadays to ignore the background of knife crime perpetrators and anyone that happens to point out that most of them are black is deemed a racist but only the most ignorant blind man would say that there is no link between knife crime and immigration
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jeeagles  08 Oct 19 7.32pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I know that it is deemed politically correct nowadays to ignore the background of knife crime perpetrators and anyone that happens to point out that most of them are black is deemed a racist but only the most ignorant blind man would say that there is no link between knife crime and immigration The worst thing about this attitude is that its black children dying, and black children getting criminal records, and ultimately black children getting trapped in a circle of poverty. If you want to help people, shutting down any conversation does not help. But I dont think there is a link between immigration and knife crime (certainly not 1st generation immigration in the last 50 years) I think there is a link between knife crime and discifracised youths who are influenced by a gangster rap culture in the media and easily influenced by those around them telling them they are different and treated badly and authority is the problem..... strangely similar to how some of the white working classes from outside of london are told that the are treated badly and immigrants are the problem. Poverty is the root cause. Edited by jeeagles (08 Oct 2019 7.42pm)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 08 Oct 19 7.45pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I know that it is deemed politically correct nowadays to ignore the background of knife crime perpetrators and anyone that happens to point out that most of them are black is deemed a racist but only the most ignorant blind man would say that there is no link between knife crime and immigration A lot of young men came to this country from African countries torn apart by civil war. Some of them may have been boy soldiers, some of them may have been victims and some may have witnessed all sorts of atrocities. Throw into that mix drugs and territorial issues (estates)and gang culture and it is no surprise that we have major issues today.
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| chris123 hove actually 08 Oct 19 8.05pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
The worst thing about this attitude is that its black children dying, and black children getting criminal records, and ultimately black children getting trapped in a circle of poverty. If you want to help people, shutting down any conversation does not help. But I dont think there is a link between immigration and knife crime (certainly not 1st generation immigration in the last 50 years) I think there is a link between knife crime and discifracised youths who are influenced by a gangster rap culture in the media and easily influenced by those around them telling them they are different and treated badly and authority is the problem..... strangely similar to how some of the white working classes from outside of london are told that the are treated badly and immigrants are the problem. Poverty is the root cause. Edited by jeeagles (08 Oct 2019 7.42pm) The lass stabbed to death earlier this year in Harold Hill was a mistaken identity and related to a local drug turf war - seems drugs is often the common denominator.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 08 Oct 19 8.34pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
The worst thing about this attitude is that its black children dying, and black children getting criminal records, and ultimately black children getting trapped in a circle of poverty. If you want to help people, shutting down any conversation does not help. But I dont think there is a link between immigration and knife crime (certainly not 1st generation immigration in the last 50 years) I think there is a link between knife crime and discifracised youths who are influenced by a gangster rap culture in the media and easily influenced by those around them telling them they are different and treated badly and authority is the problem..... strangely similar to how some of the white working classes from outside of london are told that the are treated badly and immigrants are the problem. Poverty is the root cause. Edited by jeeagles (08 Oct 2019 7.42pm) Utter nonsense. Knife crime hardly existed statistically before the arrival of Caribbean immigrants and more recently, Africans. Poverty does not make people murdering scum.
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| silvertop Portishead 08 Oct 19 9.08pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I know that it is deemed politically correct nowadays to ignore the background of knife crime perpetrators and anyone that happens to point out that most of them are black is deemed a racist but only the most ignorant blind man would say that there is no link between knife crime and immigration Agreed but are they immigrants from the EU or is their presence directly connected with EU membership? If no to either what has this got to do with Brexit? Find another thread or please stay on point
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| Hrolf The Ganger 08 Oct 19 9.20pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Agreed but are they immigrants from the EU or is their presence directly connected with EU membership? If no to either what has this got to do with Brexit? Find another thread or please stay on point Plenty of organised crime originates in Eastern Europe.
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| W12 08 Oct 19 9.33pm | |
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All cultures are not equal
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 Oct 19 9.39pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
The worst thing about this attitude is that its black children dying, and black children getting criminal records, and ultimately black children getting trapped in a circle of poverty. If you want to help people, shutting down any conversation does not help. But I dont think there is a link between immigration and knife crime (certainly not 1st generation immigration in the last 50 years) I think there is a link between knife crime and discifracised youths who are influenced by a gangster rap culture in the media and easily influenced by those around them telling them they are different and treated badly and authority is the problem..... strangely similar to how some of the white working classes from outside of london are told that the are treated badly and immigrants are the problem. Poverty is the root cause. Edited by jeeagles (08 Oct 2019 7.42pm) That old chestnut!!
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Oct 19 9.44pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
You mean apart from the published data? Bad social conditions, poor parenting and a lack of suitable resources have existed for hundreds of years without people stabbing each other. The same background? That may well be correct, but I haven't seen anything myself other than apocryphal evidence. But immigrants? Are you sure? The children or grandchildren of immigrants maybe. Why the rise in the use of knives? I am no expert but it looks like an out of control copy cat phenomenon to me, exacerbated by a lack of police resources and kids from bad backgrounds who think they won't be caught. Or do you think the blame lies solely at the door of "immigration".
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