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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Oct 19 10.09am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Ironic that boris might go to te supreme court to check the legality or correctness of the instruction to force him to ask for an extension.
Let's see if the judges uphold it or find it ok.
Maybe this will be a surprise result.
A bit like brexit.
I think I know what will happen.

So Boris goes to the SP and claims the Benn act is illegal as EU law supersedes it. The SP disagrees does that mean that Boris can appeal that decision to the European Court! Now that would be ironic

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Oct 19 10.16am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

It's not a conspiracy theory to research into the background of the judges and see pertinent reasons for political bias.
You are acting as if everything in this world is simply black and white. It isn't - I would have thought you might realise that sometimes there is more than meets the eye. It doesn't have to be a conspiracy theory. Two are current EU judges - by your own admission. When Brexit happens out of a job. Not much of a stretch. A new one is Scottish and was a supporter of independence. Are they likely to have a political bias?
Some are former EU judges - would they have anything to lose? Some are former Labour peers. As already stated, these are mainly the law lords with a different name. Hardly impartial. Only ten years ago half were party affiliated.

That is 100% conspiracy theory.

Just 2 of the Judges have ANY EU responsibilities and they are only on an "ad hoc" basis. Their jobs won't finish after Brexit at all. Their EU function is a tiny part of what they do. As EU members I am actually surprised more of them aren't required to provide support.

Of course there is a Scottish judge. This is a UK court! One is from Wales and another from NI. Do you think they should all be English? I don't think too many in the other countries would be happy about that!

None are "former EU judges" but if they were, so what? They are judges, trained in the law. That's their profession. They are NOT politicians.

So far as I can see only 2 of the current Justices previously served as Law Lords, and whether they were Tory, Labour or independent appointees is totally irrelevant. They are Supreme Court Justices. Not Law Lords with a different name. The other 9 have all been appointed since the Supreme Court was created. So no party affiliations of any kind.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 07 Oct 19 10.20am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

A bit like yourself, your views and your usage of HOL to promote them

As far as promotion goes it's as successfull as Alan Mullery with an injury crisis and a transfer embargo with the club in administration and a fixture backlog.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Oct 19 10.44am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As no-one who really knows me would ever describe me as a "narcissist" that made me think, and then laugh. So thanks for that.

I certainly don't feel imprisoned by anything. The truth always sets you free and I think I have found it over this but I can always be proved wrong.

And they would all be 'wrong' if they did...According to you.
Exactly the response one would expect from a narcissist.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 07 Oct 19 10.46am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Ironic that boris might go to te supreme court to check the legality or correctness of the instruction to force him to ask for an extension.
Let's see if the judges uphold it or find it ok.

No doubt if the Supreme Court agree with Boris the remoaners would then accuse Boris of shagging Lady Hale

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Oct 19 10.58am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

No doubt if the Supreme Court agree with Boris the remoaners would then accuse Boris of shagging Lady Hale

My understanding is that Lady Hale described the 70+ MPs who jumped on the prorogation bandwagon started in Scotland as a ‘cross party group’, however none was a Conservative or a member of the DUP. Most were Labour MPs but few, if any, seem to represent one of its estimated 148 Leave-supporting constituencies.

 

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W12 07 Oct 19 11.11am

This is getting boring.

Maybe the remainers could explain what kind of remain they would like? Hard remain, soft remain etc.

Are you all OK being part of the European super-state and what kind of future do you see with the current level of immigration into the EU?

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 07 Oct 19 11.47am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

In your opinion. So we are back to the...."you lot" are so stupid that you believe anything you read...how arrogant you are

The size of the chip on leavers’ shoulders about their intelligence is hilarious - have some confidence in your beliefs; why do you need remainers to tell you you’re right?


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Midlands Eagle Flag 07 Oct 19 11.54am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

The size of the chip on leavers’ shoulders about their intelligence is hilarious - have some confidence in your beliefs; why do you need remainers to tell you you’re right?

When the Domestic Abuse Bill becomes law it will be illegal for anyone to continually call their partner stupid. Just thought I'd add that in

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Oct 19 11.55am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Ironic that boris might go to te supreme court to check the legality or correctness of the instruction to force him to ask for an extension.
Let's see if the judges uphold it or find it ok.
Maybe this will be a surprise result.
A bit like brexit.
I think I know what will happen.

I have no idea where that idea has come from but it seems like you are whistling in the wind to me.

Firstly, no-one can go directly to the Supreme Court as it is the final court of appeal. You would have to go to the High Court first and then appeal. That takes time.

Secondly, Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty having been invoked has already been extended, thus setting a precedent. These are the relevant paragraphs:-

"3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of
the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in
paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned,
unanimously decides to extend this period.
4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the
Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of
the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it."

It seems pretty clear to me that the involvement of the EU comes after a request to extend by the Member State and that they have no role in deciding whether, how, when or by whom the member makes a request. After they do the EU takes over and the Member is not involved. Johnson cannot veto his own application.

The Benn Act specifies what must happen in the UK and EU law does not appear to me to have any part to play here.

If I am wrong I would be interested to learn why people think that is the case.

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 07 Oct 19 12.03pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

When the Domestic Abuse Bill becomes law it will be illegal for anyone to continually call their partner stupid. Just thought I'd add that in

I’ll certainly be in trouble

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Oct 19 12.12pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And they would all be 'wrong' if they did...According to you.
Exactly the response one would expect from a narcissist.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion which has been formed entirely on my comments here, which I suggest is not a particularly accurate way to determine character. I also form opinions on some of the others here, but I try to keep them to myself and concentrate on the posts, and not the poster.

Donald Trump has been accused of being a narcissist and we all have a huge amount of direct visual, oral as well as the written evidence, of his character to help us form our opinions. However, the professional psychologists in the USA refused to confirm it because they say that a clinical examination is needed before any such assessment is possible.

I will leave it to you to draw your own conclusions from those remarks as you seem to like to do that.

 


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