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 madcap_v2  SE25 / Ibiza 12 Jul 21 12.57pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Who is defending what? I haven't read anyone defend nything accept you and Madcap trying to justify bringing race politics into football. Bringing mass-immigration into football isn't political then is it? Ok.
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jeeagles  12 Jul 21 1.09pm |
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This didn't happen when Ashley Cole missed in 2014.
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| Pembroke Bristol 12 Jul 21 1.11pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
It isn't sensationalist posturing when it's actually happening. I challenge you to have a 10 min break from here and have a look on twitter for yourself. BLM matters? Black Lives Matter Matters? Never heard of them. I posted a picture of black players, making the backone of the England team. Do you watch football or are you that thick that you've forgotten the rest of the players that make up the team? Thus making it a diverse football team. This is a racist country, certainly not the most racist in the world, but racist nevertheless. It's a country I've lived in for 36 years and I'm telling you, it is a problem in society which is reflected and amplified in football. Our own PM has gone on to condemn the racism, however not long after condemning taking the knee for racial equality (+ dismissing Britain's role in slavery, comparing Muslim women with letterboxes, calling black people piccannies etc). Above all, I AM AN ENGLISH PERSON. So what part of pointing out racism in my own country is offensive to me? Condemning the knee is not racism. Muslim women and letter boxes is .. I think many aspects of religion are repressive and ridiculous .. RELIGION not race. Piccannies its was a point about how Countries were being used as Piccannies not populaces. You chose to enter a picture into the thread to be divisive, the picture divided players into a racial grouping and you have made facile political points about immigration. This is displaying your prejudice. Evidence after evidence base, you gov poll after you gov poll, fact after fact, millions of immigrants living in the UK proves that this Country is not perfect but it leads to a conclusion that we are a tolerant nation. We, the WE that is 99/9% of us are not racist. There is a percentile of a percentile who are truly prejudiced, your posts indicate you occupy that group.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 12 Jul 21 1.27pm |
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Originally posted by Pembroke
Condemning the knee is not racism. Muslim women and letter boxes is .. I think many aspects of religion are repressive and ridiculous .. RELIGION not race. Piccannies its was a point about how Countries were being used as Piccannies not populaces. You chose to enter a picture into the thread to be divisive, the picture divided players into a racial grouping and you have made facile political points about immigration.
Evidence after evidence base, you gov poll after you gov poll, fact after fact, millions of immigrants living in the UK proves that this Country is not perfect but it leads to a conclusion that we are a tolerant nation. We, the WE that is 99/9% of us are not racist. There is a percentile of a percentile who are truly prejudiced, your posts indicate you occupy that group. Another excellent post Pembroke Welcome to HOL! Tom
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 12 Jul 21 1.31pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Ms Patel came under fire herself for speaking out against the players when they took the knee before matches – a protest against racism in sport and elsewhere. The Prime Minister’s comments were dismissed as “hollow” by Labour MPs who said he was responsible for sewing seeds of division. Tory peer Baronees Warsi said those who “booed and failed to condemn the booing” of players taking the knee were “feeding a culture where racism thrives and shames our nation”. It is a relief the euros are over and Johnson and Patel can creep back into the slime they created. This literally has nothing to do with anything. Its just Tory bashing, like all your other posts. Go ahead if you wish, i'm no Tory so it does not bother me, but for balance why don't you mention perceived failings from Labour? Of course you don't, you are only interested in justifying your own beliefs to yourself and others. That's the sign of a closed mind mate.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 12 Jul 21 1.33pm |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
This literally has nothing to do with anything. Its just Tory bashing, like all your other posts. Go ahead if you wish, i'm no Tory so it does not bother me, but for balance why don't you mention perceived failings from Labour? Of course you don't, you are only interested in justifying your own beliefs to yourself and others. That's the sign of a closed mind mate. Actually, Baroness Warsi is a tory peer.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 12 Jul 21 1.36pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Actually, Baroness Warsi is a tory peer. Yes, and you are using her words to try and discredit Patel and Johnson. You are transparent.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 12 Jul 21 1.36pm |
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Originally posted by Pembroke
Condemning the knee is not racism. Muslim women and letter boxes is .. I think many aspects of religion are repressive and ridiculous .. RELIGION not race. Piccannies its was a point about how Countries were being used as Piccannies not populaces. You chose to enter a picture into the thread to be divisive, the picture divided players into a racial grouping and you have made facile political points about immigration. This is displaying your prejudice. Evidence after evidence base, you gov poll after you gov poll, fact after fact, millions of immigrants living in the UK proves that this Country is not perfect but it leads to a conclusion that we are a tolerant nation. We, the WE that is 99/9% of us are not racist. I just don't understand how anyone witnesses the fallout over the last ~12hrs and comes to that conclusion - it's laughable.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jul 21 1.38pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Bringing mass-immigration into football isn't political then is it? Ok. I am responding to the race politics cobblers that people like you have posted on this thread. Race politics has no place in football and ultimately, all of it is a result of mass immigration, like it or not.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jul 21 1.40pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I just don't understand how anyone witnesses the fallout over the last ~12hrs and comes to that conclusion - it's laughable. That's becaue you have big blinkers on.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 12 Jul 21 1.45pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
That's becaue you have big blinkers on. So in a country that is 99.9% not racist, black players recieve large volumes of racist abuse? Does that seem logical?
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 12 Jul 21 1.45pm |
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No racist backlash, it's only a few twitter accounts etc [Tweet Link]
Edit: actually until it's confirmed by news outlets, I'll say this is speculation. But doesn't look good still. Edited by madcap_v2 (12 Jul 2021 2.01pm)
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