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 Spiderman  Horsham 12 Apr 20 9.56am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Apologies as I was under the impression that the Government that was giving this money to the less fortunate was actually a Conservative Government True but even if they wanted to stop, I believe International Aid budget is written into law and any change would have to be approved by Parliament, I stand to be corrected if wrong
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| Badger11 Beckenham 12 Apr 20 9.56am |
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Originally posted by blackheatheagle
This testing stuff was promoted by the puppet who is head of WHO, and i am a but cautious since then. For sure testing is crucial but as long as it is accurate. I have seen a video of German doctor (unfortunately not in English so can not share), around 20th March he was stressing that accuracy was 50% by then. He has given 2 samples: - One patient who insists to have Covid 19 testing (forced by his business to do so), he ignored and finally tested for Influenaza. His comments was in case he was tested for Covid 19, he might be positive. - He also shared one detail of died patient in his 50 who was tested positive. He listed excessive treatment the guy had including cortizol and medicines which is used for HIV which are notorious of supressing immune system. He was saying it was early to come to a conclusion but he had doubts that over-reacting treatment may be one of the reason of huge number of deaths in Italy (by then Italy was worst) I read a similar article from English source yesterday. Let`s see what time shows.. According to the Daily Mail the government ordered 3m test kits from China and have rejected the lot as they are no good, they maybe a faulty batch? Then there are the experts saying that none of the tests available anywhere are accurate. I am sceptical about death rate countries are releasing, some countries lie for political reason, some don't have the infrastructure or logistics to catch and record accurately and even the honest ones have different ways of recording their numbers. Once the dust settles I have no doubt there will be investigations into what went wrong and who got it right. The only thing I can cling to at the moment is the government is listening to our experts what else can they do. It maybe that are experts turn out to be wrong but I don't think we can blame the government for that. What we can blame the government for is lack of equipment and NHS staff and lack of a plan which after bird flu and SARS should have been in place.
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| Spiderman Horsham 12 Apr 20 9.57am |
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Originally posted by DanH
Stop it ME. He’s never been wrong yet and I’m sure he’s not about to start now. Possibly the greatest and most right poster these boards have ever seen. Close run thing with our South Western Correspondent imo
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cryrst  The garden of England 12 Apr 20 9.57am |
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Originally posted by DanH
Stop it ME. He’s never been wrong yet and I’m sure he’s not about to start now. Possibly the greatest and most right poster these boards have ever seen. He has and admitted so. Hes even apologised to other posters so danh you are wrong. Its a big club of people everywhere.
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| Mapletree Croydon 12 Apr 20 9.59am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
According to the Daily Mail the government ordered 3m test kits from China and have rejected the lot as they are no good, they maybe a faulty batch? Then there are the experts saying that none of the tests available anywhere are accurate. I am sceptical about death rate countries are releasing, some countries lie for political reason, some don't have the infrastructure or logistics to catch and record accurately and even the honest ones have different ways of recording their numbers. Once the dust settles I have no doubt there will be investigations into what went wrong and who got it right. The only thing I can cling to at the moment is the government is listening to our experts what else can they do. It maybe that are experts turn out to be wrong but I don't think we can blame the government for that. What we can blame the government for is lack of equipment and NHS staff and lack of a plan which after bird flu and SARS should have been in place.
Whilst apportioning blame, have a pop at the RCN too. A big reason why we have so few nurses.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Apr 20 10.00am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Yet you so often do, don’t you. You can bend any fact to support your ‘logic’. And yet in northern Italy and Spain there were virtually no black virus cases and a similar situation to ours. Why do I get the feeling you want there to be an unfairness when the unfairness is likely to be why don’t the have nots have as much as the have’s. Or have more space from each other mainly. Something that cannot or cannot easily be achieved.
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| cryrst The garden of England 12 Apr 20 10.00am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
According to the Daily Mail the government ordered 3m test kits from China and have rejected the lot as they are no good, they maybe a faulty batch? Then there are the experts saying that none of the tests available anywhere are accurate. I am sceptical about death rate countries are releasing, some countries lie for political reason, some don't have the infrastructure or logistics to catch and record accurately and even the honest ones have different ways of recording their numbers. Once the dust settles I have no doubt there will be investigations into what went wrong and who got it right. The only thing I can cling to at the moment is the government is listening to our experts what else can they do. It maybe that are experts turn out to be wrong but I don't think we can blame the government for that. What we can blame the government for is lack of equipment and NHS staff and lack of a plan which after bird flu and SARS should have been in place.
A plan is good on paper. Gallipoli,ypres,certain infrastructure changes. The real world is the only way to see if a plan works. Some do some dont.
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| Midlands Eagle 12 Apr 20 10.03am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
That's one of my big gripes but I've moaned on about it enough times so won't repeat myself
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| dannyboy1978 12 Apr 20 10.04am |
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Because we can trust the Chinese.
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| Mapletree Croydon 12 Apr 20 10.10am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
And yet in northern Italy and Spain there were virtually no black virus cases and a similar situation to ours. Why do I get the feeling you want there to be an unfairness when the unfairness is likely to be why don’t the have nots have as much as the have’s. Or have more space from each other mainly. Something that cannot or cannot easily be achieved. How do you get there? Another personal agenda coming out it seems. It MAY be that race is a factor in the effect. It IS the case that gender is a factor. That is all.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Apr 20 10.13am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Because we can trust the Chinese. The families of the dead probably didn’t know whose ashes in their mass produced urn they were getting. Probably ashes scooped out of a group container of ashes.
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| DanH SW2 12 Apr 20 10.19am |
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Hard to read this and then come to any other conclusion than that the government monumentally f*cked up a few weeks ago.
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