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 Spiderman  Horsham 14 Oct 22 8.45pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
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| Spiderman Horsham 14 Oct 22 8.47pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Sir Keirs a bore! How much time has Lizzie been given to bed in? Think she is mad as a box of frogs but has been hammered from all sides (ooh aah) since she took over
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I"m not his biggest fan but better of the two evils- but give him time to bed in people- perhaps 12 years?croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 14 Oct 22 8.50pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 14 Oct 22 8.51pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
How much time has Lizzie been given to bed in? Think she is mad as a box of frogs but has been hammered from all sides (ooh aah) since she took over She has been there, voting along with the gov, 12 years spider-she"s accountable- both sides indeed!
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| steeleye20 Croydon 14 Oct 22 8.56pm |
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I don't know if it is only me, but the PMs press conference lifted me to a new intellectual threshold, her dazzling intellect left me nonplussed, or even non-Trussed.
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 14 Oct 22 9.03pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I don't know if it is only me, but the PMs press conference lifted me to a new intellectual threshold, her dazzling intellect left me nonplussed, or even non-Trussed.
Her searching the room for her favoured journalists was priceless- and even then the questions were awkward to say the least!She couldn"t spot Skys Beth Rigby- right in front of her, arm up, in the bright green jacket!
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Oct 22 9.05pm |
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Well that was quite a day! Reflecting on it all, and what both Truss and Kwarteng said, which didn't contain any kind of acknowledgement of a mistake or take any responsibility, I don't think his removal was her decision. If it was, it makes no sense. It just makes her look even more stupid than she does anyway. Everyone knows he was merely carrying out her "plans" so sacking him just looks disloyal and does nothing to divert the blame. He could have made the U turn just as well as her. So, reading between the lines, I think this was imposed on her by Central Office, who also put Hunt into No 11 to restore a degree of stability to the markets. Like him, or not, he is a calm, experienced politician who will consult and consider before acting. A safe pair of hands. Truss's premiership must now be dead in the water. Hunt will doubtless have to reverse some of the other tax changes, including the reduction to income tax. Truss may still be in office but she is no longer in power. It's only a question of time. I suspect the timetable has already been created. Maybe Truss will resign with Hunt stepping in as a stopgap PM whilst the MPs hold an accelerated election which will see Sunak in No 10. The Party would have to introduce a revised method of selecting the PM. but given the mess the current one delivered I don't think too many objections will be heard. As I wrote earlier today, before all this exploded, Sunak can distance himself from all of this. He warned against it and can even place the blame for those things that would have happened anyway on Truss. I guess the Tory Grandees understand this and see it as their only chance of winning in 2 years time. The next days will be interesting.
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 14 Oct 22 9.11pm |
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The thing is,..this Tory car was always going to crash. May and Boris managed to get out before the car got wrapped around a lamp post. Now Liz Truss has been found at the wheel in the wreckage and she's completely sozzled.
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 14 Oct 22 9.14pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Well that was quite a day! Reflecting on it all, and what both Truss and Kwarteng said, which didn't contain any kind of acknowledgement of a mistake or take any responsibility, I don't think his removal was her decision. If it was, it makes no sense. It just makes her look even more stupid than she does anyway. Everyone knows he was merely carrying out her "plans" so sacking him just looks disloyal and does nothing to divert the blame. He could have made the U turn just as well as her. So, reading between the lines, I think this was imposed on her by Central Office, who also put Hunt into No 11 to restore a degree of stability to the markets. Like him, or not, he is a calm, experienced politician who will consult and consider before acting. A safe pair of hands. Truss's premiership must now be dead in the water. Hunt will doubtless have to reverse some of the other tax changes, including the reduction to income tax. Truss may still be in office but she is no longer in power. It's only a question of time. I suspect the timetable has already been created. Maybe Truss will resign with Hunt stepping in as a stopgap PM whilst the MPs hold an accelerated election which will see Sunak in No 10. The Party would have to introduce a revised method of selecting the PM. but given the mess the current one delivered I don't think too many objections will be heard. As I wrote earlier today, before all this exploded, Sunak can distance himself from all of this. He warned against it and can even place the blame for those things that would have happened anyway on Truss. I guess the Tory Grandees understand this and see it as their only chance of winning in 2 years time. The next days will be interesting. She could be gone this weekend if the pressure keeps on- she looked broken-out of her depth and a fool- my main concern in a years time would be a knight in shining armour to make his comeback- someone a third of the country would welcome- one boris bungle bodger!
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 14 Oct 22 9.15pm |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
The thing is,..this Tory car was always going to crash. May and Boris managed to get out before the car got wrapped around a lamp post. Now Liz Truss has been found at the wheel in the wreckage and she's completely sozzled.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 14 Oct 22 9.29pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Well that was quite a day! Reflecting on it all, and what both Truss and Kwarteng said, which didn't contain any kind of acknowledgement of a mistake or take any responsibility, I don't think his removal was her decision. If it was, it makes no sense. It just makes her look even more stupid than she does anyway. Everyone knows he was merely carrying out her "plans" so sacking him just looks disloyal and does nothing to divert the blame. He could have made the U turn just as well as her. So, reading between the lines, I think this was imposed on her by Central Office, who also put Hunt into No 11 to restore a degree of stability to the markets. Like him, or not, he is a calm, experienced politician who will consult and consider before acting. A safe pair of hands. Truss's premiership must now be dead in the water. Hunt will doubtless have to reverse some of the other tax changes, including the reduction to income tax. Truss may still be in office but she is no longer in power. It's only a question of time. I suspect the timetable has already been created. Maybe Truss will resign with Hunt stepping in as a stopgap PM whilst the MPs hold an accelerated election which will see Sunak in No 10. The Party would have to introduce a revised method of selecting the PM. but given the mess the current one delivered I don't think too many objections will be heard. As I wrote earlier today, before all this exploded, Sunak can distance himself from all of this. He warned against it and can even place the blame for those things that would have happened anyway on Truss. I guess the Tory Grandees understand this and see it as their only chance of winning in 2 years time. The next days will be interesting. I think so, Trusses hand was forced. I think this weekend is long enough for Truss tbh.
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| Matov 14 Oct 22 9.30pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Sir Keirs a bore!
He is a man who has only been an MP since 2015. Starmer is a man trampling over even making a pretence of wanting local Labour parties to have the right to select their own candidates. Starmer is a leader of a Labour Party, founded by the Trade Union movement, who sacks cabinet members for standing on picket lines. He might look and sound boring but this is a man who is very much a wolf in sheep clothing. An utterly ruthless man who will do whatever Washington tell him to. And has done so in the past.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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