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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 12 Jul 21 10.19am

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Yeah, I made a typo from typing too fast and put 221 pages instead of 222. What the edit function is for, I hope that's OK with you, sir?

I understand. Its all a lot for you to take in. You're doing really well by the way.

Just give me a shout if I can be of assistance.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 12 Jul 21 10.24am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The 'diversity' industry is rather like the anti virus industry. Its economic model is based upon fear and the need to maintain it.

To that end there is an inherent self interest in jumping onto a bandwagon whenever significant events happen to ensure that people believe that your product is important.

In America race hoaxes have been shown as quite common, as the diversity industry is even more advanced there then here....there are literally millions being spent on it.

Yet studies have shown that whites are the least 'racist' of all the races.

I have no knowledge of hoaxes in this incident but I'm always suspicious of just how common and genuine this stuff is.....I admit it happens, but how common is it...what are the proportion of hoaxes. There is a distinct lack of interest from the establishment in finding that out.


Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Jul 2021 10.26am)

 


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Matov Flag 12 Jul 21 10.29am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Now we have the Euro's out of the way, I wonder if this pathetic knee-taking BS will survive? It's all going to be about the run-up to the World Cup being held in that well-known hotbed of modern liberalism, Qatar.

And I wonder if the sponsors will want the blindingly obvious hypocrisy surrounding our supposed 'woke' footballing establishment taking the blood-stained petro-dollars heading their way put up for scrutiny?

Popcorn at the ready for this one!

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 12 Jul 21 10.36am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Now we have the Euro's out of the way, I wonder if this pathetic knee-taking BS will survive? It's all going to be about the run-up to the World Cup being held in that well-known hotbed of modern liberalism, Qatar.

And I wonder if the sponsors will want the blindingly obvious hypocrisy surrounding our supposed 'woke' footballing establishment taking the blood-stained petro-dollars heading their way put up for scrutiny?

Popcorn at the ready for this one!


I don't see it stopping unless it hits clubs financially. It doesn't affect the players as their wages are set and this behaviour is safe for them.

If it carries on into the season I see lower league clubs stopping first.....as those ticket sales matter.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Jul 21 11.22am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

So England lose the Euro final but still achieve their best effort since '66 and the media are still talking about racism. A prince an the PM are making statements about it.

This is the country we now live in. In the stranglehold race obsession purpotrated by those who gain by virtue signalling.

A shameful state of affairs and all caused by mass immigration and those who gain from it. This is how minorities are allowed to assert themselves at the expence of the majority and at the same time become exploited to serve the interestes of the wealty few.

 

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madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 12 Jul 21 11.51am Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So England lose the Euro final but still achieve their best effort since '66 and the media are still talking about racism. A prince an the PM are making statements about it.

This is the country we now live in. In the stranglehold race obsession purpotrated by those who gain by virtue signalling.

A shameful state of affairs and all caused by mass immigration and those who gain from it. This is how minorities are allowed to assert themselves at the expence of the majority and at the same time become exploited to serve the interestes of the wealty few.

Nothing to do with the racial abuse the players faced directly, racist comments from England fans who now want to place the blame on not just the black players, but black people? Black England fans being attacked, physically and verbally abused on their way home?

"Caused by mass immigration". Some warped view of the world you have there. I mean, if it wasn't for mass immigration, that England team would look vastly different and Saka wouldn't be taking a penalty, so I guess you may be right there.

 


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Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 12 Jul 21 12.00pm Send a Private Message to Wilesy01 Add Wilesy01 as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Nothing to do with the racial abuse the players faced directly, racist comments from England fans who now want to place the blame on not just the black players, but black people? Black England fans being attacked, physically and verbally abused on their way home?

"Caused by mass immigration". Some warped view of the world you have there. I mean, if it wasn't for mass immigration, that England team would look vastly different and Saka wouldn't be taking a penalty, so I guess you may be right there.

Honestly pal don't give them the oxygen. They are trying to defend the indefensible.

What has happened on this thread over the last 12 hours or so is ugly.

 

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Pembroke Flag Bristol 12 Jul 21 12.09pm Send a Private Message to Pembroke Add Pembroke as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Nothing to do with the racial abuse the players faced directly, racist comments from England fans who now want to place the blame on not just the black players, but black people? Black England fans being attacked, physically and verbally abused on their way home?

"Caused by mass immigration". Some warped view of the world you have there. I mean, if it wasn't for mass immigration, that England team would look vastly different and Saka wouldn't be taking a penalty, so I guess you may be right there.

Why don't you debate the posters points? Mass immigration does have negative and obviously positive aspects.

Does identity politics, yours create division? You divide people by race. All abuse is unacceptable.

Blaming immigration for having negative aspects is not blaming all immigrants.

If it wasn't for mass immigration, that England team would look vastly different .. Your point about mass immigration is uneven. The levels of immigration in the past were in the tens of thousands a year now its hundreds .. If mass immigration in the past was at the levels it is an now, that England team would look vastly different .. Well of course it would.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Jul 21 12.10pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Nothing to do with the racial abuse the players faced directly, racist comments from England fans who now want to place the blame on not just the black players, but black people? Black England fans being attacked, physically and verbally abused on their way home?

"Caused by mass immigration". Some warped view of the world you have there. I mean, if it wasn't for mass immigration, that England team would look vastly different and Saka wouldn't be taking a penalty, so I guess you may be right there.

Do behave.
You are happy to jump on the sensationalist posturing bandwaggon .
The media love this stuff.

How may people actually post racist abuse or any sort of abuse? A tiny tiny minority, but the headlines are all about racism.
You are a typical hypocrite. You post BLM matters posters of Black players and then talk about diverity. You then try to suggest that this is a racist country.

That is offensive to English people.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Jul 2021 12.11pm)

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Jul 21 12.19pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wilesy01

Honestly pal don't give them the oxygen. They are trying to defend the indefensible.

What has happened on this thread over the last 12 hours or so is ugly.

Who is defending what?

I haven't read anyone defend nything accept you and Madcap trying to justify bringing race politics into football.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 12 Jul 21 12.53pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Ms Patel came under fire herself for speaking out against the players when they took the knee before matches – a protest against racism in sport and elsewhere.

The Prime Minister’s comments were dismissed as “hollow” by Labour MPs who said he was responsible for sewing seeds of division.

Tory peer Baronees Warsi said those who “booed and failed to condemn the booing” of players taking the knee were “feeding a culture where racism thrives and shames our nation”.

It is a relief the euros are over and Johnson and Patel can creep back into the slime they created.

 

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madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 12 Jul 21 12.54pm Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Do behave.
You are happy to jump on the sensationalist posturing bandwaggon .
The media love this stuff.

How may people actually post racist abuse or any sort of abuse? A tiny tiny minority, but the headlines are all about racism.
You are a typical hypocrite. You post BLM matters posters of Black players and then talk about diverity. You then try to suggest that this is a racist country.

That is offensive to English people.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Jul 2021 12.11pm)

It isn't sensationalist posturing when it's actually happening. I challenge you to have a 10 min break from here and have a look on twitter for yourself.

BLM matters? Black Lives Matter Matters? Never heard of them. I posted a picture of black players, making the backone of the England team. Do you watch football or are you that thick that you've forgotten the rest of the players that make up the team? Thus making it a diverse football team.

This is a racist country, certainly not the most racist in the world, but racist nevertheless. It's a country I've lived in for 36 years and I'm telling you, it is a problem in society which is reflected and amplified in football. Our own PM has gone on to condemn the racism, however not long after condemning taking the knee for racial equality (+ dismissing Britain's role in slavery, comparing Muslim women with letterboxes, calling black people piccannies etc).

Above all, I AM AN ENGLISH PERSON. So what part of pointing out racism in my own country is offensive to me?

 


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