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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 12 Apr 20 9.24am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Figures speak for them selves The virus itself doesn’t discriminate. Your ability or will to distance yourself is the question. Nothing else.
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| Stirlingsays 12 Apr 20 9.27am |
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Originally posted by blackheatheagle
Hygiene is an obvious friend to avoid transmission but i have a feeling that immune system which got strong in a long term due to lack of hygiene may be a friend to fight with the virus once you interacted?.. Yep, too hygienic and your body's immune system is less trained....though if you carry on behaving hygienically you're still less likely to get it unless you're constantly dealing with it. But it's also true that a strong immune system with lots of anti bodies is going to be harder to kill....if they start behaving hygienically once the pandemic starts much more so. All that said, this virus seems to have it's own particulars that over-ride this logic. Children are far less likely to die and their immune systems are weak and untrained....Yet the elderly are highest at risk by far. So the elderly of communal minorities are going to take a higher hit but the youth of communal communities will still have high resistance. Once all the research is done and dusted no doubt it will all be explained. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Apr 2020 9.31am)
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| Mapletree Croydon 12 Apr 20 9.31am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
The virus itself doesn’t discriminate. Your ability or will to distance yourself is the question. Nothing else. It is possible the effects of the virus are different by race. Science is different from witchcraft precisely because it can keep an open mind. Spirometers generally have an inbuilt assumption that black people have lower lung capacities, somewhat to my surprise We also know that men are worse affected than women.
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| Stirlingsays 12 Apr 20 9.32am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
The virus itself doesn’t discriminate. Your ability or will to distance yourself is the question. Nothing else. Hygiene factors in as well, not just social distancing.
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cryrst  The garden of England 12 Apr 20 9.33am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yep, too hygienic and your body's immune system is less trained....though if you carry on behaving hygienically you're still less likely to get it unless you're constantly dealing with it. But it's also true that a strong immune system with lot of anti bodies is going to be harder to kill....if they start behaving hygienically once the pandemic starts much more so. All that said, this virus seems to have it's own particulars that over-ride this logic. Children are far less likely to die and their immune systems are weak and untrained....Yet the elderly are highest at risk by far. Once all the research is done and dusted no doubt it will all be explained. I would bet somewhere out in the ether there is a chemical, natural or manmade which will defeat this. The bitch is finding it. Ethics means human testing is not allowed but if your 4 hours from death what's to lose really. Also it would be interesting if lifestyle , ie smokers, drinkers,drug users,eating habits etc were taken down and analyzed. You can rest assured for example that if smokers were less affected we wouldn't be told. Shame that these figures arnt out there. I'm only using smoking as an example and am in no way condoning the habit. Just shooting at the stars tbh.
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| Mapletree Croydon 12 Apr 20 9.33am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
How many times do you hear "this virus doesn't discriminate" couldn't make it up Yet you so often do, don’t you. You can bend any fact to support your ‘logic’.
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| Stirlingsays 12 Apr 20 9.43am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Yup I remember and I also stated that asian families live in large units, adding that finance and the making of 'could' be a reason that they choose this. My point this time is if biology is playing a part. As midland said sickle cell is mainly a black persons illness so could this be similar. I dont think the tories would be any less concerned about this anomolie than labour are and are probably looking into it as well. There really needs to be some blue sky thinking (pun not meant) It's a stereotype and so a generalization but different communities are more nuclear then others for several reasons. Also some cultures are just more communal than others....then there's population density. Also it's true that certain communities are more hygienic and stand offish than others. The Japanese being the most obvious example of this....that can lessen the affects of population density. But regardless of that, if this virus or indeed any pathogen has your number then that's the genetic lottery. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Apr 2020 9.45am)
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| Midlands Eagle 12 Apr 20 9.47am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I stated earlier on this board that minorities would get this in higher percentages due to cultural behaviours and was attacked by the usual suspects. As for some other poster I could mention... Interesting that if anyone disagrees with you they are attacking you. Go back and reread what you wrote and you will see that the "usual suspects" that you are complaining about was just one solitary poster.
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| Spiderman Horsham 12 Apr 20 9.52am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Yet you so often do, don’t you. You can bend any fact to support your ‘logic’. TBF anyone can, if they do wish Sorry meant so wish Edited by Spiderman (12 Apr 2020 9.58am)
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| Stirlingsays 12 Apr 20 9.53am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I would bet somewhere out in the ether there is a chemical, natural or manmade which will defeat this. The bitch is finding it. Ethics means human testing is not allowed but if your 4 hours from death what's to lose really. Also it would be interesting if lifestyle , ie smokers, drinkers,drug users,eating habits etc were taken down and analyzed. You can rest assured for example that if smokers were less affected we wouldn't be told. Shame that these figures arnt out there. I'm only using smoking as an example and am in no way condoning the habit. Just shooting at the stars tbh. Indeed, all diseases have an Achilles's heel somewhere. Even Aids, which was infamously hard to solve eventually was tackled....even though once you get it, it's about living with it and it still radically alters people's lives. This all reminds me somewhat of the Churchill gene....the fact that some people will have genes which are just incredibly robust against certain aliments. Just as you get the opposite and some are predisposed to aliments. Our systems are specific to us even if we all fit within types. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Apr 2020 11.07am)
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| DanH SW2 12 Apr 20 9.53am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Interesting that if anyone disagrees with you they are attacking you. Go back and reread what you wrote and you will see that the "usual suspects" that you are complaining about was just one solitary poster. Stop it ME. He’s never been wrong yet and I’m sure he’s not about to start now. Possibly the greatest and most right poster these boards have ever seen.
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| cryrst The garden of England 12 Apr 20 9.55am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Interesting that if anyone disagrees with you they are attacking you. Go back and reread what you wrote and you will see that the "usual suspects" that you are complaining about was just one solitary poster. Any point is valid for whatever reason. It's not just cultural either. Why would you choose to live 10 or 12 to a house. I wouldn't unless it was unavoidable and neither would you. If people dying were subletting properties there will be a few people explaining why they need a house now.
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