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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Nov 20 9.03pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I feel that I have a kind of duty to the mentally ill. So not only are you assuming a "duty" no-one has asked you to assume you are also making clinical judgements based only on your prejudices. If you held any kind of professional qualification which allowed you to make such determinations then you would be struck off. Perhaps you would let us know which actual qualification you hold? Special needs training doesn't qualify. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 22 Nov 20 9.03pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I feel that I have a kind of duty to the mentally ill.

So not only are you assuming a "duty" no-one has asked you to assume you are also making clinical judgements based only on your prejudices.

If you held any kind of professional qualification which allowed you to make such determinations then you would be struck off.

Perhaps you would let us know which actual qualification you hold? Special needs training doesn't qualify.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 22 Nov 20 9.05pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle So not only are you assuming a "duty" no-one has asked you to assume you are also making clinical judgements based only on your prejudices. If you held any kind of professional qualification which allowed you to make such determinations then you would be struck off. Perhaps you would let us know which actual qualification you hold? Special needs training doesn't qualify. I recommend doing something about your ears WE. As you clearly can't hear that plane flying over your head. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

22 Nov 20 9.05pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

So not only are you assuming a "duty" no-one has asked you to assume you are also making clinical judgements based only on your prejudices.

If you held any kind of professional qualification which allowed you to make such determinations then you would be struck off.

Perhaps you would let us know which actual qualification you hold? Special needs training doesn't qualify.

I recommend doing something about your ears WE.

As you clearly can't hear that plane flying over your head.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Lombardinho London 22 Nov 20 9.37pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Thank you for the kind words. I don't though blame Trump for everything that's wrong in the world. I blame the system that allowed someone like him to become President in the first place and which has allowed him to do what he is now doing. He is clearly a sick man who ought never have been allowed anywhere near the White House. If any credible evidence of any kind of election fraud came to light anywhere then I would join in the condemnation. I have no special regard for Corbyn and think your hypothesis is even more unlikely than Trump's. The problem with your question is that it assumes there has been fraud when there is no actual evidence. I have no idea what happened in Venezuela but I suspect that the oversight is rather more effective in the USA. I'm not trying to catch you out or trap you here, Wisbech. What I'm saying is that mainstream media and social media are complicit in the fraud so you're not going to see the evidence spread out and spoon fed to you. Sometimes you have to go with your intuition. And yours seems damaged by your indoctrinated views on President Trump. He's not a sick man if what he's doing is exposing the corruption for what it is.
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London 22 Nov 20 9.37pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Thank you for the kind words. I don't though blame Trump for everything that's wrong in the world. I blame the system that allowed someone like him to become President in the first place and which has allowed him to do what he is now doing. He is clearly a sick man who ought never have been allowed anywhere near the White House.

If any credible evidence of any kind of election fraud came to light anywhere then I would join in the condemnation. I have no special regard for Corbyn and think your hypothesis is even more unlikely than Trump's.

The problem with your question is that it assumes there has been fraud when there is no actual evidence.

I have no idea what happened in Venezuela but I suspect that the oversight is rather more effective in the USA.

I'm not trying to catch you out or trap you here, Wisbech.
What I'm saying is that mainstream media and social media are complicit in the fraud so you're not going to see the evidence spread out and spoon fed to you.
Sometimes you have to go with your intuition.
And yours seems damaged by your indoctrinated views on President Trump.
He's not a sick man if what he's doing is exposing the corruption for what it is.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 22 Nov 20 10.15pm
Why waste time on this, Bidens won , trumps lost, there was no cheating, move on peoples, just wait for the don to have a face saving exit, either terminally ill and minds shot with the medication, or he wanted out and has a mahessive business deal that he just cant refuse!
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Any european country i fancy! 22 Nov 20 10.15pm

Why waste time on this, Bidens won , trumps lost, there was no cheating, move on peoples, just wait for the don to have a face saving exit, either terminally ill and minds shot with the medication, or he wanted out and has a mahessive business deal that he just cant refuse!

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Nov 20 10.29pm
Originally posted by Lombardinho I'm not trying to catch you out or trap you here, Wisbech. What I'm saying is that mainstream media and social media are complicit in the fraud so you're not going to see the evidence spread out and spoon fed to you. Sometimes you have to go with your intuition. And yours seems damaged by your indoctrinated views on President Trump. He's not a sick man if what he's doing is exposing the corruption for what it is. Intuition is an unreliable method to determine whether allegations of fraud are factual. Only evidence is and there isn't any. None at all. Including that the MSM are complicit in any fraud. The social media I see is full of conspiracy theories in support of Trump and none at all from those who oppose him that doesn't state the obvious, that none has happened. Assertions and innuendo are not evidence. There is heaps of evidence of Trump and his team's lies. Not theory. In plain sight from their own mouths and tweets. If there is any evidence then let it be shown and examined. Put up, or shut up has to be the message now. A huge degree of tolerance of this has been shown in order to try and reassure those who have been encouraged to believe lies by the worst President ever. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 22 Nov 20 10.29pm

Originally posted by Lombardinho

Intuition is an unreliable method to determine whether allegations of fraud are factual. Only evidence is and there isn't any. None at all. Including that the MSM are complicit in any fraud. The social media I see is full of conspiracy theories in support of Trump and none at all from those who oppose him that doesn't state the obvious, that none has happened. Assertions and innuendo are not evidence.

There is heaps of evidence of Trump and his team's lies. Not theory. In plain sight from their own mouths and tweets.

If there is any evidence then let it be shown and examined. Put up, or shut up has to be the message now. A huge degree of tolerance of this has been shown in order to try and reassure those who have been encouraged to believe lies by the worst President ever.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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dannyboy1978 22 Nov 20 10.37pm
All one needs is reasonable belief! Reasonable belief means that the belief is based on reasonable grounds. This does not mean that the belief needs to be correct. The test applied to “reasonable belief” will be an objective test i.e. the disclosure will be assessed based on how a reasonable person would respond to the information available to him or her at the time that the disclosure was made.
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dannyboy1978

22 Nov 20 10.37pm

All one needs is reasonable belief!
Reasonable belief means that the belief is based on reasonable grounds. This does not mean that the belief needs to be correct. The test applied to “reasonable belief” will be an objective test i.e. the disclosure will be assessed based on how a reasonable person would respond to the information available to him or her at the time that the disclosure was made.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Nov 20 10.38pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I recommend doing something about your ears WE. As you clearly can't hear that plane flying over your head. Thanks. I already have. As I told you Specsavers offer hearing checks. I would recommend you go too but unfortunately they don't yet offer personality transplants. Not too many planes here. Much more bird song and the sounds of neighbours chatting sociably. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 22 Nov 20 10.38pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I recommend doing something about your ears WE.

As you clearly can't hear that plane flying over your head.

Thanks. I already have. As I told you Specsavers offer hearing checks. I would recommend you go too but unfortunately they don't yet offer personality transplants.

Not too many planes here. Much more bird song and the sounds of neighbours chatting sociably.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Nov 20 10.45pm
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 All one needs is reasonable belief! Reasonable belief means that the belief is based on reasonable grounds. This does not mean that the belief needs to be correct. The test applied to “reasonable belief” will be an objective test i.e. the disclosure will be assessed based on how a reasonable person would respond to the information available to him or her at the time that the disclosure was made. Where on earth do you get that idea from? Reasonable belief has no application in these cases. The actual test is that something has to be proved "beyond a reasonable doubt". That means showing evidence. That is why EVERY case that has so far been heard has been thrown out, often accompanied by comments from the Judge that the claims are without merit. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 22 Nov 20 10.45pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Where on earth do you get that idea from? Reasonable belief has no application in these cases.

The actual test is that something has to be proved "beyond a reasonable doubt". That means showing evidence. That is why EVERY case that has so far been heard has been thrown out, often accompanied by comments from the Judge that the claims are without merit.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 22 Nov 20 10.46pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Thanks. I already have. As I told you Specsavers offer hearing checks. I would recommend you go too but unfortunately they don't yet offer personality transplants. Not too many planes here. Much more bird song and the sounds of neighbours chatting sociably. Cope. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

22 Nov 20 10.46pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Thanks. I already have. As I told you Specsavers offer hearing checks. I would recommend you go too but unfortunately they don't yet offer personality transplants.

Not too many planes here. Much more bird song and the sounds of neighbours chatting sociably.

Cope.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 23 Nov 20 12.10am
Originally posted by Cpfc1861 I didnt think the Trump legal team would be presenting official evidence until 2 weeks time theyre merely presenting witness statements and avidavits or whatever they call them over there. I know that Sidney powell is heading it up she seems confident and one only has to look at her track record she is a very successful attorney i doubt she would risk her reputation if she didn't have a case she has a success rate of about 80 percent ive read on wiki which is ridiculous if true. You nearly had me there, TBF. ‘The Trump administration sought to distance itself from attorney Sidney Powell on Thursday, insisting she is ‘not a member’ of their legal team – despite the president tweeting only last week that she was. In a written statement issued by Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, and his senior campaign adviser, Jenna Ellis, they said: ‘Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. ‘She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team,’ the message continued. ‘She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity.’ ‘I know that Sidney Powell is heading it up...’ Oh dear. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 23 Nov 20 12.10am

Originally posted by Cpfc1861

I didnt think the Trump legal team would be presenting official evidence until 2 weeks time theyre merely presenting witness statements and avidavits or whatever they call them over there. I know that Sidney powell is heading it up she seems confident and one only has to look at her track record she is a very successful attorney i doubt she would risk her reputation if she didn't have a case she has a success rate of about 80 percent ive read on wiki which is ridiculous if true.

You nearly had me there, TBF.

‘The Trump administration sought to distance itself from attorney Sidney Powell on Thursday, insisting she is ‘not a member’ of their legal team – despite the president tweeting only last week that she was.

In a written statement issued by Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, and his senior campaign adviser, Jenna Ellis, they said: ‘Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. ‘She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team,’ the message continued. ‘She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity.’

‘I know that Sidney Powell is heading it up...’

Oh dear.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Stirlingsays 23 Nov 20 5.19am
This genuinely isn't over yet. I think it's currently unlikely but there is a lot of legal stuff going on. Yet the media are reporting as if it's over. Al Gore didn't concede until 37 days and what is it....20 days? Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Nov 2020 5.45am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

23 Nov 20 5.19am

This genuinely isn't over yet. I think it's currently unlikely but there is a lot of legal stuff going on.

Yet the media are reporting as if it's over.

Al Gore didn't concede until 37 days and what is it....20 days?

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Nov 2020 5.45am)

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Spiderman Horsham 23 Nov 20 7.00am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle So not only are you assuming a "duty" no-one has asked you to assume you are also making clinical judgements based only on your prejudices. If you held any kind of professional qualification which allowed you to make such determinations then you would be struck off. Perhaps you would let us know which actual qualification you hold? Special needs training doesn't qualify. Have you not been making clinical judgements on Trump based on your prejudices? Unless of course you are medically qualified.
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Spiderman

Horsham 23 Nov 20 7.00am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

So not only are you assuming a "duty" no-one has asked you to assume you are also making clinical judgements based only on your prejudices.

If you held any kind of professional qualification which allowed you to make such determinations then you would be struck off.

Perhaps you would let us know which actual qualification you hold? Special needs training doesn't qualify.

Have you not been making clinical judgements on Trump based on your prejudices? Unless of course you are medically qualified.

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