Yes my side DID win. How many more times? There was a vote. Two options. Leave or Remain. And Leave obtained more votes. That is how you win a vote. This really is not rocket science and no matter how much you want to try and cloud the issue behind hyperbolic nonsense, it matters not a jot.

Indeed. How many more times! It was a referendum. Not a game of football. It carried no legal status. It showed that 4% more of the people preferred the leave option to the remain option. Then the matter returned to Parliament where the actual decisions are made and where votes actually count. They made promises which they have been unable, so far, to deliver on. Your version of Brexit is not supported by Parliament. Not all those who voted leave will want your version but what the split would be is unknown because that wasn't asked in the referendum. So to claim that your view "won" is simply untrue because we don't know. All we know is the result of a binary referendum.

The result on June 23rd was a victory for those of us who wish for the UK to leave the EU.

No-one in their right mind ought to view the last 3 years as a "victory". The leave campaign secured the biggest share of the votes but the consequences have been disastrous for all of us. Primarily because of the unforeseen difficulties involved in actually leaving in a secure way which have been exacerbated by those who have sought to undermine the importance of Parliamentary democracy and the way it serves us.

Now that might well be scuppered by Parliament and they will suffer the wrath accordingly but this ludicrous notion that somehow we have to make an accommodation with Remainers is beyond derision.

Making an "accommodation" was exactly how this started in trying to satisfy the Eurosceptics by agreeing to hold a referendum. That was done but now you want their views, and their views alone, to be all that matters?

If this vote had been the other way around then the Remain side would have rubbed our noses in it. Would have proclaimed the numbers of new jobs created as being solely down to us not voting to jump off the cliff-edge and generally proclaiming the far-sighted wisdom of the 'Experts' behind the Project Fear BS.

Farage had already said he would be continuing his campaign.

And whilst I cannot speak for all Leavers, I would have swallowed it all. Respecting the vote and believing that there was nothing to be gained anymore by pushing the point. We wanted a vote and it was lost. C'est la vie. That is how democracy works. Had our chance and was found wanting. It happens.

And most "remainers", me included, respect the vote. What many, me included, cannot accept is to do so in a way that is seen by those in Parliament, whose job it is to study these things, as causing us unnecessary harm. So just leaving on WTO terms when an alternative, less painful, way is on offer needs to be stopped, in their opinion. Others think that, after such a long time and with increased knowledge, it makes sense to revisit the whole question to check what the current mood of the country is. I don't agree with that.

But more fool me right for believing the Remain side felt themselves bound by the same conventions. Shame on you and anybody else who believes that Remain should still even be up for discussion, let alone cheering on a Parliament seemingly intent on blocking our exit.

Parliament are not "blocking" the exit! They are refusing a minority government taking us out on terms they don't approve of. That's not only their right, it's their duty.

A nice unbiased rant from you which yet again turns out to be completely untrue

It's completely true.

He should not even think of discussing such things at the Tory conference until after presenting them, in person, to Parliament.

To do so first is totally disrespectful.

But it's too late to keep banging on about your grievances. The referendum was approved by Parliament, has already happened with acting on the result guaranteed by the then Prime Minister and multiple others of all parties.

Accept it and move on. You will feel better.

A link to the BMA website:-

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Johnson has the gall to stand there and claim that the tories are 'the party of the NHS'