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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 14 Oct 22 5.56pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Only this morning Kwasi was quoted as saying,..."I'm going nowhere" With predictive skills like that, no wonder the economy is in a bit of a lather. He was absolutely right though ... he's "going nowhere". Denial is not just a river in Egypt
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Only this morning Kwasi was quoted as saying,..."I'm going nowhere"
With predictive skills like that, no wonder the economy is in a bit of a lather.

He was absolutely right though ... he's "going nowhere".

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 14 Oct 22 6.16pm
The Tories will only pull the plug on Truss, IF there was anyone else as a serious candidate for the Leadership. Truss is the best they have at the moment, laughable though it is, we are all suffering because of it. Boris was equally as incompetent but had charisma in buckets to deflect criticism. It might be better for the UK for the Tories to call a General Election and see if Labour can produce the goods. Because we seem to be rudderless with our present Government I disengage, I turn the page.
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The Tories will only pull the plug on Truss, IF there was anyone else as a serious candidate for the Leadership.
Truss is the best they have at the moment, laughable though it is, we are all suffering because of it. Boris was equally as incompetent but had charisma in buckets to deflect criticism.

It might be better for the UK for the Tories to call a General Election and see if Labour can produce the goods.
Because we seem to be rudderless with our present Government

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Matov 14 Oct 22 7.03pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly The Tories will only pull the plug on Truss, IF there was anyone else as a serious candidate for the Leadership. Truss is the best they have at the moment, laughable though it is, we are all suffering because of it. Boris was equally as incompetent but had charisma in buckets to deflect criticism. It might be better for the UK for the Tories to call a General Election and see if Labour can produce the goods. Because we seem to be rudderless with our present Government Gove is effectively running the show now. Lots of chatter about Truss being told to stand down over the coming weekend. With Sunak a shoe in via an MP only selection process. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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14 Oct 22 7.03pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

It might be better for the UK for the Tories to call a General Election and see if Labour can produce the goods.
Because we seem to be rudderless with our present Government

Gove is effectively running the show now. Lots of chatter about Truss being told to stand down over the coming weekend. With Sunak a shoe in via an MP only selection process.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Teddy Eagle 14 Oct 22 7.10pm
Originally posted by Matov Gove is effectively running the show now. Lots of chatter about Truss being told to stand down over the coming weekend. With Sunak a shoe in via an MP only selection process. The man who supposedly tried to unblock his toilet with a vacuum cleaner? Might be useful experience in the current situation.
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14 Oct 22 7.10pm

Originally posted by Matov

Gove is effectively running the show now. Lots of chatter about Truss being told to stand down over the coming weekend. With Sunak a shoe in via an MP only selection process.

The man who supposedly tried to unblock his toilet with a vacuum cleaner? Might be useful experience in the current situation.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Oct 22 7.12pm
Originally posted by Matov Gove is effectively running the show now. Lots of chatter about Truss being told to stand down over the coming weekend. With Sunak a shoe in via an MP only selection process. She’s a predictable car crash who would inevitably fvck something up, probably many times a day. Everybody deserves better than someone who doesn’t know what she’s doing, saying, answering, you name it. It’s a real shame in several ways, but she was never the answer, except to the complete oddballs who vote for this person who somehow managed to blag her way into the cabinet. That should’ve been the shock. Well it was when she made an idiot of herself, again, being unprepared and clueless visiting Ukraine. COYP
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Caterham 14 Oct 22 7.12pm

Originally posted by Matov

Gove is effectively running the show now. Lots of chatter about Truss being told to stand down over the coming weekend. With Sunak a shoe in via an MP only selection process.

She’s a predictable car crash who would inevitably fvck something up, probably many times a day. Everybody deserves better than someone who doesn’t know what she’s doing, saying, answering, you name it. It’s a real shame in several ways, but she was never the answer, except to the complete oddballs who vote for this person who somehow managed to blag her way into the cabinet. That should’ve been the shock. Well it was when she made an idiot of herself, again, being unprepared and clueless visiting Ukraine.

COYP

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Matov 14 Oct 22 7.43pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman She’s a predictable car crash who would inevitably fvck something up, probably many times a day. Everybody deserves better than someone who doesn’t know what she’s doing, saying, answering, you name it. It’s a real shame in several ways, but she was never the answer, except to the complete oddballs who vote for this person who somehow managed to blag her way into the cabinet. That should’ve been the shock. Well it was when she made an idiot of herself, again, being unprepared and clueless visiting Ukraine. I disagree. The point is that she tried to actually be a Conservative. This is what I find so perplexing. Reducing taxes is what Tories are meant to be doing. Encouraging people to work, to strive, to keep more of what they earn in their own pockets. Attempting to shrink Government. That budget was a game changer. She is going to go down in history as the only Tory PM to lose their job because they were actually Conservative. I concede I am boring about this but Truss has been under attack from her own side because she tried to be a real Conservative. That is f***ed up. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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14 Oct 22 7.43pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I disagree. The point is that she tried to actually be a Conservative. This is what I find so perplexing. Reducing taxes is what Tories are meant to be doing. Encouraging people to work, to strive, to keep more of what they earn in their own pockets. Attempting to shrink Government.

That budget was a game changer. She is going to go down in history as the only Tory PM to lose their job because they were actually Conservative.

I concede I am boring about this but Truss has been under attack from her own side because she tried to be a real Conservative.

That is f***ed up.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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steeleye20 Croydon 14 Oct 22 7.58pm
Originally posted by Matov I disagree. The point is that she tried to actually be a Conservative. This is what I find so perplexing. Reducing taxes is what Tories are meant to be doing. Encouraging people to work, to strive, to keep more of what they earn in their own pockets. Attempting to shrink Government. That budget was a game changer. She is going to go down in history as the only Tory PM to lose their job because they were actually Conservative. I concede I am boring about this but Truss has been under attack from her own side because she tried to be a real Conservative. That is f***ed up. It's an old failed model that no longer convinces, it never really worked, the tories drag it up but they were quickly found out. Time for a change.
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Croydon 14 Oct 22 7.58pm

Originally posted by Matov

That budget was a game changer. She is going to go down in history as the only Tory PM to lose their job because they were actually Conservative.

I concede I am boring about this but Truss has been under attack from her own side because she tried to be a real Conservative.

That is f***ed up.

It's an old failed model that no longer convinces, it never really worked, the tories drag it up but they were quickly found out.

Time for a change.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 14 Oct 22 8.06pm
Everywhere"s out of popcorn!
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Any european country i fancy! 14 Oct 22 8.06pm

Everywhere"s out of popcorn!

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Oct 22 8.13pm
Originally posted by Matov I disagree. The point is that she tried to actually be a Conservative. This is what I find so perplexing. Reducing taxes is what Tories are meant to be doing. Encouraging people to work, to strive, to keep more of what they earn in their own pockets. Attempting to shrink Government. That budget was a game changer. She is going to go down in history as the only Tory PM to lose their job because they were actually Conservative. I concede I am boring about this but Truss has been under attack from her own side because she tried to be a real Conservative. That is f***ed up. This is just wrong. She is under attack because what she tried to do was stupid. It wasn't anything to do with being a Conservative. The first requirement of being a true Conservative is to maintain financial integrity. Truss has destroyed it and along with it our international reputation for being a safe and reliable partner. Expecting international businesses to invest with such an inept government in charge is nuts. It decreases growth. The aspirations you specify are what most sensible people want. It's not the aspirations which are disputed. It's trying to achieve them without any kind of realistic plan. Truss has all the political nous of Del boy. No doubt we would all like to be millionaires. We do though need a proper plan to achieve it. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 14 Oct 22 8.13pm

Originally posted by Matov

That budget was a game changer. She is going to go down in history as the only Tory PM to lose their job because they were actually Conservative.

I concede I am boring about this but Truss has been under attack from her own side because she tried to be a real Conservative.

That is f***ed up.

This is just wrong.

She is under attack because what she tried to do was stupid. It wasn't anything to do with being a Conservative. The first requirement of being a true Conservative is to maintain financial integrity. Truss has destroyed it and along with it our international reputation for being a safe and reliable partner. Expecting international businesses to invest with such an inept government in charge is nuts. It decreases growth.

The aspirations you specify are what most sensible people want. It's not the aspirations which are disputed. It's trying to achieve them without any kind of realistic plan. Truss has all the political nous of Del boy. No doubt we would all like to be millionaires. We do though need a proper plan to achieve it.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Grumbles 14 Oct 22 8.16pm
Originally posted by Matov I concede I am boring about this but Truss has been under attack from her own side because she tried to be a real Conservative. That is f***ed up. Problem she is dealing with a party with a significant national socialist element. They aren't traditional Tories they pour scorn on old Conservative ideals. Truss' problem is lack of credibility. She would say anything to be PM, the one thing she had in common with BoJo. What we really need is someone who is boring and safe.
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Grumbles 14 Oct 22 8.16pm

Originally posted by Matov

I concede I am boring about this but Truss has been under attack from her own side because she tried to be a real Conservative.

That is f***ed up.

Problem she is dealing with a party with a significant national socialist element. They aren't traditional Tories they pour scorn on old Conservative ideals.

Truss' problem is lack of credibility. She would say anything to be PM, the one thing she had in common with BoJo. What we really need is someone who is boring and safe.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 14 Oct 22 8.21pm
Originally posted by Grumbles Problem she is dealing with a party with a significant national socialist element. They aren't traditional Tories they pour scorn on old Conservative ideals. Truss' problem is lack of credibility. She would say anything to be PM, the one thing she had in common with BoJo. What we really need is someone who is boring and safe. Sir Keirs a bore! I"m not his biggest fan but better of the two evils- but give him time to bed in people- perhaps 12 years?
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Any european country i fancy! 14 Oct 22 8.21pm

Originally posted by Grumbles

Problem she is dealing with a party with a significant national socialist element. They aren't traditional Tories they pour scorn on old Conservative ideals.

Truss' problem is lack of credibility. She would say anything to be PM, the one thing she had in common with BoJo. What we really need is someone who is boring and safe.

Sir Keirs a bore! I"m not his biggest fan but better of the two evils- but give him time to bed in people- perhaps 12 years?

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 14 Oct 22 8.26pm
you"re, not singing anymore- you"re, not sing-ing anymore!
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Any european country i fancy! 14 Oct 22 8.26pm

you"re, not singing anymore- you"re, not sing-ing anymore!

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