the British 'taking' of Northern Ireland pre-dates the European 'taking' of Manhatten, NY. from the local Indian tribes.

Some thefts cannot subsequently be undone. A United Ireland makes as much sense as flattening the skyscrapers of Manhatten and re-granting hunting rights to a few fellas in wooden canoes.

interestingly....the word 'Manhatten' means a place for getting good wood to make bows & arrows.

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I would’ve thought it’s quite evident that the use of a state military force to enter an area is not remotely comparable to immigration of civilians. That’s an incredibly weak comparison.

You’ve done this before on this thread; tried to conflate the ‘plight’ of English people who have had to contend with high immigration rates into the country, with those who are under military occupation - I don’t think it stacks up at all.

I don’t fail to get it, I’m saying I don’t agree with it - comparing immigration with a military occupation is complete nonsense anywhere outside of a tabloid front page. Palestinian civilians are dying in their tens of thousands, millions displaced with no access to food, aid, healthcare - whatever your views on immigration, to make any equivalence between what Palestinians are currently experiencing and what British citizens are is beyond ridiculous.

And my parents certainly don’t tip their hat to any monarchy.

It was you who commented on the Ireland comparison and that is why I mentioned the English issue as while I agree that of course it isn't a like for like the reality is that the end result on the ground....the replacement of one people for another is the same.

So for me your dismissal has issues as it seems to only be concerned.....not about the land taken from one people for another but the violence aspect.

Well, the large scale violence aspect in terms of Ireland literally happened in the 17th Century......Something I'm not proud of but hardly the fault of the modern day.

So it seems to me that if you are going to recognise the resentment, if not the violence itself of the Irish towards the British for the loss of their land then it seems to be rather....selective and one eyed to dismiss what's happening to the English now.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

This strikes me as the ICC trying to compromise with their main funders in the west. The first two would probably be acceptable to the Biden administration who desperately want the war over with six months to go before an election vote.

When you look at who funds the ICC the US don't appear in the top ten and aren't signed up to it.....I imagine this is the only reason they are coming out so strongly on Gaza.

What they ask for is obviously the humanitarian thing to do.

However, it would be suicide for old Netty.....He's probably going to string this out for as long as he can....as the whole point is to ethnically cleanse.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

For my opinion on Palestine and Ireland, I think they need to realise that HAMAS are nothing like the PLO and that Jews are not all rabid Zionists. But I won't hold my breath as I think the constant victim mentality and blaming Britain for everything - as a go to position is wearing a bit thin with everyone - particularly the people. The people who are about to vote them out en masse. Sinn Fein majority will likely mean more of the same - probably worse. I just hope sincerely the next government can house Irish people and maybe give us some kind of healthcare. Third World services whilst posturing about being rich and virtuous is literally taking the piss. Or paying and being put on a waiting list in order to take the piss at some stage next year. Or in the case of housing - in maybe 10-20 years time. I have a friend who's been homeless for 32 years - living in various hostels. He's getting housed now. Bully for him - no joke. Obviously he's an Irish guy so he's not a priority.

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